Asus P5WD2 Premium: DDR2-1066 and the Promise of 955x SLI
by Wesley Fink on May 11, 2005 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
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Memory Stress Testing
Optimum tRAS
In past reviews of AMD motherboards, memory bandwidth tests established that a tRAS of 6 was optimal for the nForce4 chipset, a tRAS of 10 was best for the nForce3 chipset and a tRAS setting of 11 or 12 was generally best for nForce2. Tests with Intel chipsets in the past have generally shown the lowest tRAS setting to provide the best bandwidth with Intel chipsets.Since this was the first memory stress test of a production 955X board, tRAS timings were first tested with memtest86, a free diagnostic program with its own boot OS that will boot from either a floppy disk or optical disk. Bandwidth was measured from tRas 4 to tRAS 15 at the specified DDR2-667 to determine the best tRAS setting. Since Intel recommends 5-5-5-15 timings with DDR2-667, we wanted to establish recommended timings with lower latency memory from Corsair and OCZ.
Memtest86 Bandwidth Asus P5DW2 at DDR2-667 |
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4 tRAS | 3443 |
5 tRAS | 3443 |
6 tRAS | 3443 |
7 tRAS | 3443 |
8 tRAS | 3443 |
9 tRAS | 3443 |
10 tRAS | 3443 |
11 tRAS | 3443 |
12 tRAS | 3360 |
13 tRAS | 3360 |
14 tRAS | 3360 |
15 tRAS | 2184 |
The best bandwidth was achieved with this combination of 955x and Pentium 560 in the 4 to 11 range. Since, historically, Intel chipsets have performed best at the lowest tRAS setting, we used a tRAS of 4 for memory tests. Any value from 4 to 11 should provide similar bandwidth.
Since memory was also tested at DDR2-800, we ran a similar set of tRAS timings at DDR2-800. At that speed, tRAS bandwidth was the same from tRAS 4 to tRAS13, so we tested with tRAS 4 for all DDR2-800 tests.
Memory Stress Tests
Memory stress tests look at the ability of the Asus P5WD2 Premium to operate at the officially supported memory frequency (667MHz DDR2), at the best performing memory timings that Corsair/OCZ PC2-5400 will support. Memory stress testing was conducted by running DDR2 at 667MHz (stock 3:5 ratio) with 2 DIMM slots operating in Dual-Channel mode.Stable DDR667 Timings - 2 DIMMs
(2/4 DIMMs - 1 Dual-Channel Bank) |
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Clock Speed: | 200MHz (800FSB) |
Timing Mode: | 3:5 (200:333 - Default) |
CAS Latency: | 4.0 |
Bank Interleave: | Auto |
RAS to CAS Delay: | 2 |
RAS Precharge: | 2 |
Cycle Time (tRAS): | 4 |
Command Rate: | NA |
The Asus P5WD2 Premium was completely stable with 2 DDR2 modules in Dual-Channel at the settings of 4-2-2-4 at 1.9V.
Filling all four available memory slots is more strenuous on the memory subsystem than testing 2 DDR2 modules on a motherboard.
Stable DDR667 Timings - 4 DIMMs (4/4 DIMMs - 2 Dual-Channel Banks) |
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Clock Speed: | 200MHz (800FSB) |
Timing Mode: | 3:5 (200:333 - Default) |
CAS Latency: | 4.0 |
Bank Interleave: | Auto |
RAS to CAS Delay: | 3 |
RAS Precharge: | 2 |
Precharge Delay: | 4 |
Command Rate: | NA |
4 DDR2 DIMMs were just as stable as 2 DIMMs on the new Asus 955x. We needed slightly slower 4-3-2-4 timings at DDR2-667 when using 4 DDR2 DIMMs at 1.9V. But at 2.0V, the 4 DDR2 dimms ran with complete stability at the same 4-2-2-4 timings that worked with 2 DIMMs. This is a remarkable improvement over the performance that we saw with 4 DDR2 DIMMs on the 925X. Considering the compromises that the AMD Athlon 64 has required with 4 DIMMs, Intel and Asus have done an outstanding job in equipping the 955X with the ability to run 4 DIMMs without much of a compromise.
Since both Corsair and OCZ had submitted new DDR2-667 DIMMs tweaked for best performance and low-latency in the latest DDR2 platforms, these were the only 2 pairs of DIMMs that we had for 4-DIMM testing on this new 955x board. We used a pair of Corsair and a pair of OCZ and these unmatched pairs performed fine at the same timings that worked with 2 DIMMs. Both Corsair and OCZ are based on Micron DDR2 chips, but the SPDs, bandwidth, and timings did differ in our tests of each pair, indicating that they are similar, but not identical in performance.
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overclockingoodness - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
Can someone tell me why they decided to bench both at DDR-667 and DDR-800?Wesley: are you planning on testing all Intel mobos like that with two different memory speeds?
Capt Caveman - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
I actually plan on returning the P5WD2 Premium that I purchased. I bought this board for going to dual core but was really sold on the Wifi-TV card that was supposed to come with it. It's the first board in Asus's Ai Life Series and the major component of this series is the Wifi-TV Card.Well, surprise my Asus Premium doesn't come with one. It's optional. I spoke to people at Asus US in Technical Support, Customer Service, Pre-sales and RMA groups and they all confirmed to me that there was only one model and it's optional. Every retailer that carries the P5WD2 Premium has it without the Wifi-TV Card. Yet, the reviewers have them, making you think that the card comes with the board.
Also, things have been down-graded on this board from previous premium boards. The mosfet heatsink is aluminum compared to the copper heatsinks used in my P5AD2-e Premium. Contrary to what some have said, the P5WD2 Premium does not have IDE Raid when the P5AD2-e Premium did. The P5AD2-e Premium also has 1394b where the P5WD2 Premium does not. And obviously no built on Wifi.
Why did they call this board a Premium when it's missing all of the premium items that we're used to getting? Why didn't they just call it the Deluxe since this board does not have the premium features as it's other premium boards?
I believe Asus is misleading folks. I have yet to receive a reply back to several emails that I have sent also.
Sad thing is that I was a huge fan of Asus til getting this board which I must pay a 15% restocking fee to return.
elecrzy - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
on page 2, you might want to add that NF4 supports SATAII, not just SATAI.RadeonGuy - Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - link
it would have been better to include a fx-55 as competition