8-Phase Power and Dual x16 PCIe

Two areas really stand out with the new Asus A8N32-SLI. First, this is the launch of a true dual x16 SLI board. That means that you can bridge two video cards at full x16 speed in each slot instead of the x8 speed of current SLI.

8-Phase Power

The new Asus 32-SLI boards, both the recently tested P5N32-SLI for Intel processors and this A8N32-SLI for AMD, are the first 8-phase desktop boards that we have tested. Those who have questioned whether the design is truly 8-phase will be interested in this shot with the MOSFET heatsinks removed on the Intel version. There are 8 coils and 8 banks of MOSFETS along the two sides of the CPU.

Why 8-phase? Asus tells us that an 8-phase design significantly reduces the requirements for input ripple current.

Looking at hard numbers, this means that the ripple current in an 8-phase design is 3 to 4 times lower than a standard 3- or 4-phase design. Based on a 100 Amp output current, the required input ripple current would be:

 CPU Current 100A  2-Phase  3-Phase  4-Phase  8-Phase
Input Ripple Current (A) 22.63 16.508 12.359 4.463

Low ripple voltage can stabilize the CPU at working voltage, but it also can increase the over-clocking margin. An Asus White Paper uses the analogy of ripple voltage being like waves in an ocean and the CPU is like a boat. It is very hard for a boat to go forward in big waves (High ripple voltage), and the big waves can even turn the boat around (Burnout of the CPU). On the other hand, it is easy for a boat to move forward in small waves (Low ripple voltage), and the boat can even go faster (Overclocking the CPU) in an ocean with small waves.

The other advantages of 8-phase are a current reduction of up to 50% compared to 4-phase, which can yield a power reduction of about 25% over 4-phase. This even applies to a reduction in power consumption in a high-end CPU. Asus claims that a CPU requiring 130W in a 4-phase design will see a 10% reduction in power consumption in an 8-phase design.

All of these power reductions mean less heat, which is becoming an increasing problem as traces get smaller and systems get faster. How much heat reduction? Asus claims that their 8-phase design is 15°C (36°F) cooler than conventional solutions when the system is stressed in operations like high overclocking. Lower heat contributes to less need for cooling, higher overclocks, greater reliability, and the ability to use passive heat-pipe cooling without active fans.

Dual x16 PCIe

While both the P5N32-SLI for Intel and this A8N32-SLI for AMD provide two full speed 16-bit slots for SLI, they use a slightly different set of chipsets to drive this feature. This AMD version uses what is basically a C51 Northbridge chip without integrated graphics for the A8N32-SLI North Bridge and an nForce4 SLI chip for the South Bridge. In this hybrid design, each bridge drives one x16 slot and a total of 40 PCIe lanes are available to the board.

The Intel processor solution from NVIDIA uses the Intel C19 for the Northbridge and the same nForce4 SLI for the South Bridge. The 2 chips communicate via a Hypertransport link just like the chips in the AMD solution.

Whatever the differences in approach, both the Intel and AMD versions provide full dual x16 PCIe slots, which can be combined into Dual x16 SLI video. There are also other potential design uses as you saw in the Gigabyte quad PCIe review, where the board could enable four x8 PCIe slots to drive up to 10 monitors.

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  • Phantronius - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link

    Holy shit!!! $250 for one of these boards via newegg!!????
  • Capt Caveman - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link

    Newegg = Screwegg

    Mwave has it for $195 in stock. And Mwave will call you to let you know that it shipped.
  • Zebo - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link

    Mwave rocks I'm not even sure why people screw around with newegg anymore. I've ordered my last six or so mobo+cpu combos from mwave always cheapest and a free something... game.. app..etc.

    Asus appears to be back after lackluster non-existant NF3 and recent NF4 boards! I may get this and I don't even run Sli.. $200 is a little hard to swallow with DFI ultra for $120 but I like silent setup.
  • Jedi2155 - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link

    Wat about Monarch?
  • bob661 - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link

    Monarch has it for $249 last I checked. I wouldn't buy from Mwave. Like the other dude said their customer service leaves a LOT to be desired. I'll buy from Newegg. Customer service is top notch and their shipping is super fast. I'll also buy from ZZF. Their customer is also pretty good although shipping a bit slower than Newegg.
  • Leper Messiah - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link

    See, I've had both good and bad expierences with mwave, their customer service is crappy (can't understand asians who have been speaking english for a month tops.) but their prices are good. Too bad newegg gouges on Fedex shipping now.

    BTW, whats going on with the forums? Haven't been able to log in for a while...
  • xsilver - Monday, November 7, 2005 - link

    thats a bit racist isnt it?
    they have a totally different pronounciation format in their language so they never get the english accent totally right
    conversly, even if you learned chinese for 20years your accent would still sound funny
  • sxr7171 - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link

    When SLI was first introduced last year, we were told that 8x was more than enough bandwidth and that currently video cards can't even come close to saturating that bus. Now we have all this dual x16 hype - for what? Were they lying then or are they lying now? I guess it's good for future-proofing and progress is good, the consumer must be aware of it.
  • ElFenix - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link

    if they're claiming a goodly reduction in energy usage due to the 8 phase design i'd like to see if it bears out.
  • SnakeJG - Friday, November 4, 2005 - link

    quote:

    Asus claims that a CPU requiring 130W in a 4-phase design will see a 10% reduction in power consumption in an 8-phase design.


    I would really love to see you guys test this out by comparing the power draw of different SLI systems, and seeing if the 8-phase design actually saves noticable power.

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