ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus: NVIDIA's 650i goes Dual x16
by Gary Key on April 2, 2007 3:30 AM EST- Posted in
- Motherboards
Final Impressions
This is our first look at an NVIDIA hybrid configuration for the Intel platform. ASUS has done an amazing job combining the 650i SPP and 570 SLI MCP chipset into a board design that offers the same basic features of the 680i SLI chipset at a very competitive price point. This is the same philosophy that NVIDIA is using with the 680i LT SLI chipset, only their first implementation fell a bit short in features when compared to the ASUS solution. Certainly both designs have their own strengths and weakness but at this time we feel like ASUS did a better job when they decided to lower the price point for obtaining 680i features and performance.
This does not mean the 680i LT SLI is not a viable product; between the two designs we certainly think it is the more elegant solution although the actual implementation on the EVGA board lacked a finishing coat of polish. However, with the OEM version (two year versus lifetime warranty) of the EVGA board now selling for around $159 we think the board is a very good value considering its performance. One would still be hard pressed to fall in love with its active cooling or neutered BIOS, but at certain price points it becomes easier to overlook a few flaws that are not fatal to the quality or performance of the board. Where does that leave us with the ASUS board?
We really like this board, so much so we are awarding it a Silver Editors' Choice Award. More importantly, we appreciate the fact that ASUS went to the trouble of designing and producing it at a time when 680i boards were selling well north of $250. ASUS has engineered a unique solution that performs better and costs less than most 680i motherboards. While the 680i LT SLI has taken a certain amount of air out ASUS' sails, we still believe this board offers the best overall combination of features, quality, and performance in a 680i level board for under $200.
We did not have too many issues with the board over a grueling six week test schedule. The overclocking aspects of the board do not reach the same levels as other 680i boards and will probably not satisfy the extreme overclocker or a user needing high FSB speeds with a quad core processor. However, the overclocking abilities of this board will satisfy the majority of users and stock performance in most applications and games is nothing short of amazing with the right memory installed.
Memory performance is exceptional for an NVIDIA based Intel chipset, and our internal tests reveal a 23% advantage in Sandra unbuffered test results. This memory performance directly influences the test results we witnessed across a variety of benchmarks. The issue is that a user will need high performance memory to take advantage of the tight sub-timings that ASUS has designed into the BIOS. We certainly recommend fairly low latency memory for this board along with the capability of running at 1T Command rates around the DDR2-800 level.
In all honesty, the performance differences between our budget memory modules and the higher performing modules were usually less than 5% in extended testing. The important factor to consider is that this board is one of the few that is able to fully take advantage of our higher performance modules by offering stable 1T operation with very aggressive memory sub-timings. We are still testing this board with a wide variety of memory modules but if you have the patience to tweak and test memory settings, this board will reward you with measurable performance improvements across the board.
In the end, none of this really matters unless the board offers a high degree of quality, performance, and support. We feel like ASUS offers all of these and more with this board. We fully expect the pricing to drop a little more now that the 680i LT SLI chipset has been introduced, but when looking at boards in the $150~$200 price range we feel like ASUS has hit the nail on the head with the P5N32-E SLI Plus. It might not do everything "perfect" and it isn't designed for everyone, but it offers more than the sum of its parts would indicate and that is something we are just not use to seeing very much. We congratulate ASUS on a job well done and look forward to their next opportunity when they have to engineer a new product to satisfy a market demand instead of providing the same old product with a different marketing spin.
This is our first look at an NVIDIA hybrid configuration for the Intel platform. ASUS has done an amazing job combining the 650i SPP and 570 SLI MCP chipset into a board design that offers the same basic features of the 680i SLI chipset at a very competitive price point. This is the same philosophy that NVIDIA is using with the 680i LT SLI chipset, only their first implementation fell a bit short in features when compared to the ASUS solution. Certainly both designs have their own strengths and weakness but at this time we feel like ASUS did a better job when they decided to lower the price point for obtaining 680i features and performance.
This does not mean the 680i LT SLI is not a viable product; between the two designs we certainly think it is the more elegant solution although the actual implementation on the EVGA board lacked a finishing coat of polish. However, with the OEM version (two year versus lifetime warranty) of the EVGA board now selling for around $159 we think the board is a very good value considering its performance. One would still be hard pressed to fall in love with its active cooling or neutered BIOS, but at certain price points it becomes easier to overlook a few flaws that are not fatal to the quality or performance of the board. Where does that leave us with the ASUS board?
We did not have too many issues with the board over a grueling six week test schedule. The overclocking aspects of the board do not reach the same levels as other 680i boards and will probably not satisfy the extreme overclocker or a user needing high FSB speeds with a quad core processor. However, the overclocking abilities of this board will satisfy the majority of users and stock performance in most applications and games is nothing short of amazing with the right memory installed.
Memory performance is exceptional for an NVIDIA based Intel chipset, and our internal tests reveal a 23% advantage in Sandra unbuffered test results. This memory performance directly influences the test results we witnessed across a variety of benchmarks. The issue is that a user will need high performance memory to take advantage of the tight sub-timings that ASUS has designed into the BIOS. We certainly recommend fairly low latency memory for this board along with the capability of running at 1T Command rates around the DDR2-800 level.
In all honesty, the performance differences between our budget memory modules and the higher performing modules were usually less than 5% in extended testing. The important factor to consider is that this board is one of the few that is able to fully take advantage of our higher performance modules by offering stable 1T operation with very aggressive memory sub-timings. We are still testing this board with a wide variety of memory modules but if you have the patience to tweak and test memory settings, this board will reward you with measurable performance improvements across the board.
In the end, none of this really matters unless the board offers a high degree of quality, performance, and support. We feel like ASUS offers all of these and more with this board. We fully expect the pricing to drop a little more now that the 680i LT SLI chipset has been introduced, but when looking at boards in the $150~$200 price range we feel like ASUS has hit the nail on the head with the P5N32-E SLI Plus. It might not do everything "perfect" and it isn't designed for everyone, but it offers more than the sum of its parts would indicate and that is something we are just not use to seeing very much. We congratulate ASUS on a job well done and look forward to their next opportunity when they have to engineer a new product to satisfy a market demand instead of providing the same old product with a different marketing spin.
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R3MF - Monday, April 2, 2007 - link
this mish-mash of different chipsets probably works fine under windows, because asus will provided a tailored nVidia driver to ensure it works.but they have always been rubbish at providing a linux variant of the proprietary systems design.
can i use the standard release nVidia linux chipset drivers to use this board under linux?
if the answer is 'no' then this board is garbage.
Gary Key - Monday, April 2, 2007 - link
This board uses the standard NVIDIA 680i driver set in XP and Vista. I had no issues loading SUSE 10.2 on the board but did not test it extensively with RAID or other options. The ADI audio worked but not as well as the Realtek offerings on other boards.yacoub - Monday, April 2, 2007 - link
but only for you and the other handful of folks in that situation...yyrkoon - Monday, April 2, 2007 - link
Yes, and no. Because users are fed up with MS/WIndows/Vista, a lot of users are making the plunge into Linux.Anyhow, it is the softwares responcability to comply with the hardware, not vice versa(to a point that is, obviously the hardware does need to comply with each specification, IE SATA, IDE, x86, etc.), if Linux is to be taken seriously, the Linux dev teams NEED to write a module for every possible chipset out there . . . if not, then well, you will have what you currently have right now, an OS, that does not support near as many hardware configurations, as Windows does.
Linux is a fun OS, and great for certain situations, but when you have problems like those caused by udev, and whatever else, you can not help but feel like it is not complete. Granted, the Linux dev teams for each distro, is usually much smaller than the teams that write code for Windows. End results however, tend to make this user feel as though Linux is a toy OS, with lots of work still needed. Ubuntu, is good for some situations, and a cutting edge Distro such as SabayonLinux, is also not without its quirks(but 'feels' very simular to Windows Vista.).
The end result is: what do *you* expect from a free OS ? Personaly, I like each, for different reasons, but still consider Windows to be the only real serious OS, mainly because of support for many, if not nearly all forms of hardware. Look and feel also are a consideration, but Linux has been closing the gap here, for a long time now.
Anyhow, that 'handful of users' is growing day by day, and is not really a 'handful' any more.
MrWizard6600 - Monday, April 2, 2007 - link
I could really use to see one. I don't see the differances between this board and a regualar 680i chipset, aside from the northbridges being different (which you would think would impact total PCI-e lanes but... apparently not..).so can you put together a map?
sWORDs - Tuesday, April 3, 2007 - link
Check this post, it's a dutch forum, but the first second and third table are english, and those are the ones you need.http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/...">http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/...
Gary Key - Monday, April 2, 2007 - link
Let me see what we can create tomorrow.