It looks like that heatsink design will allow one of the fans to blow waste GPU heat into the CPU/RAM area of the motherboard. That doesn't seem like a good idea.
It really depends on the case airflow, but in general, and considering that gpus usually get much hotter, I'd say this is actually better than blasting the air into the pc or diverting it to come out the side, from where it will most likely reach the cpu air stream nontheless.
anything that's not a blower fan is dumping its waste heat into the case, and given that most cases flow air front to back and heat rises, regardless of how you are dumping it(through the back of the card or out the end) it's going into the area above it, which is usually where the CPU lives. If you have decent airflow, it's a non-issue as it will get pushed out the back of the case before it really does much to heat the CPU area.
This actually one of the best open air cooling designs. It allows the "back fan" to blow freely through the fins rather than against the PCB, which reduces the resistance to the air flow significantly. Hence the cooler can perform better or be more silent. And venting more heat straight into the CPU area is generally a good thing, as this area is usually the best vented one. There has been a Fury with a conceptually similar design, I think from Gigabyte, with far superior thermal & acoustic performance.
I can tell you right now what the best cooling solution is - a centrifugal fan that sucks air from both sides and pushes it through the gpu radiator and out of the case.
Centrifugal fans offer the best performance and durability, which is why they are used throughput the big industry. Unfortunately, the graphics card designs which incorporated it were subpar, even if it is currently found on many high end products, including the 8500$ quadro gp100.
Now if the fan would be extended to fit the entire height of the card and allowed to take in air from both sides that would increase airflow significantly. The second step is to property engineer a radiator that takes into account the fact that air expands when it heats, a phenomenon that impairs airflow and cooling performance. The third and final step - rather than relying on regular heatpipes and a solid block radiator, instead design the radiator panels to be individual heatpipes, well they won't be pipes per se, more of heat exchanger panels, which would significantly improve thermal conductivity of the radiator and overall heat displacement.
Although this solution is so effective I doubt we will see the mediocre industry embracing it until we get to 500 or even 1000 watt GPUs
Not engineered. Nothing in it is new or remotely challenging. It won't be considerably expensive neither, especially relative to the cost of actual gpus.
But certainly overbuilt. It will contemporary high end gpus at 10 degree above the ambient temperature.
There is no mess, and it would offer by far the best cooling performance for the buck, because its cooling advantage will greatly exceed its price premium over comparable contemporary solutions.
It will also be far less prone to clogging with dust and significantly quieter. Current solutions actually generate more noise pushing air through the fins than the actual fan rotation, whereas this solution will generate almost no noise from the airflow as the "fins" will be much more sparse, which is also why they won't clog with garbage.
you know they are unlikely to do this, they like many want to do the bare minimum to keep price artificially inflated as long as possible cause we are just peasants after all. look at how much Nv stripped away from 200 series and up to focus on raw speed who cares about advanced stuff, and Intel who keeps cycling out new motherboards for no reason other than folks are "stupid" enough to keep buying new socket generations even when the previous generation has the pin count to allow all them fancy new features.
They could likely easily implement simple amazing coolers for cpu heatsinks or gpu heatsinks that cost next to nothing in material or manhours design time, but they will not, cause that means they cannot sell a higher end version that costs a significant chunk more.
I prefer blower style as all the hot air it produces is vented outside directly, but, those rads seem purpose built to constrain it as much as possible so they get clogged quite easily with dust and not at all as easy to keep clean as should be (purpose designed to fail)
what others said makes sense, a nice open area towards front of card to help dispel more heat easily (if the heatpipes were designed to take such into account) but, the x design or owl eyes however you want to word it, with the pci-e power dead center of card to me makes it even fuglier...likely they will want that much more over a small 10-15% bump in MSEP/MSRP, like they did with RX 400/500 series and their fancy 2 little clips to easily remove fans.
dinky little features should not auto increase sell price of unit by 20+% or more IMO....they could have and should have titled one of the fans to fire air towards the back of card a bit so that much more hot air is expelled from rear slot, open air or closed shroud should always expel a chunk of that hot air out rear of card so at least there will be that much less blast furnace heat being put into case ^.^
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LauRoman - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
Bad design is thataway ><>or this way <><
austinsguitar - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
no its this way ^...ddriver - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
The holes in the back are actually a good move engineering wise, it will definitely improve cooling performance.Azix - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
Yeah, sucks for the CPU and RAM tho0ldman79 - Friday, December 1, 2017 - link
That should be an intake beside the CPU and RAM.Shouldn't hurt it.
chrnochime - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
If for nothing else there's less material used for the fan shroud. Questionable aesthetics yes but at least there's less plastic created.PeachNCream - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
It looks like that heatsink design will allow one of the fans to blow waste GPU heat into the CPU/RAM area of the motherboard. That doesn't seem like a good idea.ddriver - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
It really depends on the case airflow, but in general, and considering that gpus usually get much hotter, I'd say this is actually better than blasting the air into the pc or diverting it to come out the side, from where it will most likely reach the cpu air stream nontheless.e36Jeff - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
anything that's not a blower fan is dumping its waste heat into the case, and given that most cases flow air front to back and heat rises, regardless of how you are dumping it(through the back of the card or out the end) it's going into the area above it, which is usually where the CPU lives. If you have decent airflow, it's a non-issue as it will get pushed out the back of the case before it really does much to heat the CPU area.MrSpadge - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
This actually one of the best open air cooling designs. It allows the "back fan" to blow freely through the fins rather than against the PCB, which reduces the resistance to the air flow significantly. Hence the cooler can perform better or be more silent. And venting more heat straight into the CPU area is generally a good thing, as this area is usually the best vented one. There has been a Fury with a conceptually similar design, I think from Gigabyte, with far superior thermal & acoustic performance.ddriver - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
I can tell you right now what the best cooling solution is - a centrifugal fan that sucks air from both sides and pushes it through the gpu radiator and out of the case.Centrifugal fans offer the best performance and durability, which is why they are used throughput the big industry. Unfortunately, the graphics card designs which incorporated it were subpar, even if it is currently found on many high end products, including the 8500$ quadro gp100.
Now if the fan would be extended to fit the entire height of the card and allowed to take in air from both sides that would increase airflow significantly. The second step is to property engineer a radiator that takes into account the fact that air expands when it heats, a phenomenon that impairs airflow and cooling performance. The third and final step - rather than relying on regular heatpipes and a solid block radiator, instead design the radiator panels to be individual heatpipes, well they won't be pipes per se, more of heat exchanger panels, which would significantly improve thermal conductivity of the radiator and overall heat displacement.
Although this solution is so effective I doubt we will see the mediocre industry embracing it until we get to 500 or even 1000 watt GPUs
LordOfTheBoired - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
That doesn't sound like the best cooling solution to me. It sounds like an expensive over-engineered mess. To put it mildly.ddriver - Wednesday, November 29, 2017 - link
Not engineered. Nothing in it is new or remotely challenging. It won't be considerably expensive neither, especially relative to the cost of actual gpus.But certainly overbuilt. It will contemporary high end gpus at 10 degree above the ambient temperature.
There is no mess, and it would offer by far the best cooling performance for the buck, because its cooling advantage will greatly exceed its price premium over comparable contemporary solutions.
It will also be far less prone to clogging with dust and significantly quieter. Current solutions actually generate more noise pushing air through the fins than the actual fan rotation, whereas this solution will generate almost no noise from the airflow as the "fins" will be much more sparse, which is also why they won't clog with garbage.
Dragonstongue - Wednesday, November 29, 2017 - link
you know they are unlikely to do this, they like many want to do the bare minimum to keep price artificially inflated as long as possible cause we are just peasants after all. look at how much Nv stripped away from 200 series and up to focus on raw speed who cares about advanced stuff, and Intel who keeps cycling out new motherboards for no reason other than folks are "stupid" enough to keep buying new socket generations even when the previous generation has the pin count to allow all them fancy new features.They could likely easily implement simple amazing coolers for cpu heatsinks or gpu heatsinks that cost next to nothing in material or manhours design time, but they will not, cause that means they cannot sell a higher end version that costs a significant chunk more.
I prefer blower style as all the hot air it produces is vented outside directly, but, those rads seem purpose built to constrain it as much as possible so they get clogged quite easily with dust and not at all as easy to keep clean as should be (purpose designed to fail)
privater - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
This looks like a bra to me..ddriver - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
That's a clear sign you need to see more bras :)milkod2001 - Wednesday, November 29, 2017 - link
lol, agreedlazarpandar - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
U G L E Eanubis44 - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
If it runs cool due to its design, then it's freaking gorgeous to me.CaedenV - Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - link
so... will it actually be available for purchase by normal humans? Or are the crypto miners buy them all?Dragonstongue - Wednesday, November 29, 2017 - link
what others said makes sense, a nice open area towards front of card to help dispel more heat easily (if the heatpipes were designed to take such into account) but, the x design or owl eyes however you want to word it, with the pci-e power dead center of card to me makes it even fuglier...likely they will want that much more over a small 10-15% bump in MSEP/MSRP, like they did with RX 400/500 series and their fancy 2 little clips to easily remove fans.dinky little features should not auto increase sell price of unit by 20+% or more IMO....they could have and should have titled one of the fans to fire air towards the back of card a bit so that much more hot air is expelled from rear slot, open air or closed shroud should always expel a chunk of that hot air out rear of card so at least there will be that much less blast furnace heat being put into case ^.^