Intel DP55KG and DP55SB - Two P55s Reviewed
by Rajinder Gill on April 6, 2010 7:45 PM EST- Posted in
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We'll sum up the weaknesses for both boards together, as they are essentially the same. Automated overclocking routines seem to be an increasing trend among the board-makers, but sadly Intel's "Auto-Tune" software failed horribly. With our i7 870 sat at stock and BIOS defaults, we started the Auto-Tune and chose the 1st option of overclocking within Intel’s safe range. The program quickly ran into problems such as application crashes and BSOD’s. Auto-Tune’s pre-programmed routines start IDCC and reinitialize the Auto-Tune option when Windows loads, so unfortunately this problem persisted as it failed to advance past the point it kept failing at. The only solution was to stop Auto-Tune starting at the Windows UAC prompt and then uninstall and reinstall the software.
Memory overclocking was disappointing. While the 2:6 and 2:8 memory ratios were satisfactory, the 2:10 ran into problems and refused to boot any higher than 175 BCLK from a power cycle which equated to 875 MHz or DDR3-1750. This was despite trying up to 1.35v VTT and loosening timings to 9-9-9-27 and slacking off tRFC and tFAW. The only way to get both boards to POST past 175 BCLK was to use or high-end Corsair 2200 MHz modules - and that too was only possible by ramping BCLK slowly so that the board did not need a full power cycle when exiting BIOS.
Unfortuantely, we ran into problems whilst stress testing at memory freqeuncies above 1800MHz, the board shut-down when running Hyper-Pi. We tried all manner of changes to circumvent this problem, finding that using VTT voltage above 1.42V resulted in the board shutting down whilst loading Windows. It would be logical for us to put this down to some kind of over-current protection - we're used to seeing more overhead from motherboards that are given an 'Extreme' moniker. It's clear this is an area that Intel need to work on in the future.
Four months after the launch of Intel's 32nm Clarkdale CPUs and after a number of supported BIOS releases, we didn't expect to run into a bug such as the PCI-E x16 slot running at 1x speed with an i5 670. This was another disappointing discovery that affects the lowly 9500GT in terms of benchmark results, meaning that better and faster cards are likely the be affected even more.
S3 resume was ok on both boards until around abut 170-175 BCLK where the board would resume Windows, but fail-back to restore the session from the hard drive like a hibernation. Again, this is an area where Intel are not quite competitve with the rest.
The list of what we would like to see improved or added to Intel’s “Extreme” series is quite lengthy. The BIOS could be better laid out, with more options to tweak but even just the simple things like ‘Auto’ settings for memory timings. The IDCC software could also be improved, with Auto-Tune needing a large overhaul. Memory overclocking should be a strong focus, with the minimum requirement of having all the dividers working as expected, at least to the same level as other vendors.
Stepping back from the specifics, the board layout, while understandable for Intel’s standard desktop range, should have been redesigned to allow larger aftermarket heatsinks to be used and a full board of good quality solid capacitors isn’t much to ask as it's become standard for products in this price range.
If you forget that these boards are part of Intel’s “Extreme” series and just look upon them as basic P55 ATX and M-ATX boards, they’re much easier to recommend. As with all of Intel’s boards, they have a lot of ‘little things’ that just work and you find yourself overlooking some of the finer details unless you stop to think. The disappointing fact is that Intel is marketing these under their “Extreme” series and they just don’t do enough to satisfy their ‘extreme’ price tags.
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vol7ron - Tuesday, April 6, 2010 - link
If you're doing a giveaway with this... it is my birthday coming up :)vol7ron - Tuesday, April 6, 2010 - link
Is that right (8:48 4/5)? I'm not sure where it is that you're 36 hours behind me?Richard Pawley - Tuesday, April 6, 2010 - link
Hi. The article went up with the time we started putting it into the backend - It updated soon after to show when it was actually published. You must've been quick to spot that ;-)Regards,
Richard
vol7ron - Tuesday, April 6, 2010 - link
i browse AT like it's my wifeAnand Lal Shimpi - Wednesday, April 7, 2010 - link
HA! best, quote, ever.silverblue - Wednesday, April 7, 2010 - link
And here's me thinking that would mean "rarely, and only when I'm on my best behaviour"...AstroGuardian - Wednesday, April 7, 2010 - link
Welcome to the club mate ;-)What was funny was some few days ago when my wife said something like: "Stop reading that damn BLUE site of yours...". This made me laugh cause i am with AT for years longer than with her ;). Now she noticed the blue color lol
SunLord - Tuesday, April 6, 2010 - link
I love how the micro atx board literally looks like they just cut off the bottom part of the ATX board kind of coolMadMan007 - Tuesday, April 6, 2010 - link
"While the 2:6 and 2:8 memory ratios were satisfactory"So does that mean that using those ratios you can clock the bclk and CPU higher and just not get the e-peen stretching superhigh memory speeds that mostly seem to help a few synthetic benchmarks? If those ratios are 'satisfactory' and the only purpose of high memory speeds is artifical benchmarks you could focus on getting the best overall overclock and not worry about maxing out the memory speed.
I do hope you tried clocking with those ratios, perhaps the various annoyances go away or are not as bad in that case. If not I'm a little disappointed if a lot of time was spent trying to max out memory speed rather than focusing on 'real world' performance as I expect from AT.
deruberhanyok - Wednesday, April 7, 2010 - link
Thanks for the writeup! quick questions:Was the PCI-Express slot operating at x1 speed a bug only with the i5 670, or is it something in all of the Clarkdale processors until the updated BIOS comes out?
I noticed they both include a bluetooth antenna. I'm guessing the BT module is the tiny green PCB next to the SATA ports. Is that standard on all of the boards? How was reception/performance? I like the idea of not having to have an external bluetooth dongle to connect keyboards, wireless headset, cell phone, etc.