AMD Radeon HD 7750 & Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition Review: Evading The Price/Performance Curve
by Ryan Smith & Ganesh T S on February 15, 2012 12:01 AM EST- Posted in
- GPUs
- AMD
- HTPC
- GCN
- Radeon HD 7000
HQV 2.0 Benchmarking
HTPC enthusiasts are often concerned about the quality of pictures output by the system. While this is a very subjective metric, we have decided to take as much of an objective approach as possible. Over the last year or so, we have been using the HQV 2.0 benchmark for this purpose.
The HQV 2.0 test suite consists of 39 different streams divided into 4 different classes. The playback device is assigned scores for each, depending on how well it plays the stream. Each test was repeated multiple times to ensure that the correct score was assigned. The scoring details are available in the testing guide on the HQV website.
We first played back the benchmarking clips off the Blu-ray, but the scores recorded below are for standalone M2TS playback using CyberLink PowerDVD 12. Our take is that it is standalone files (such as those taken using consumer camcorders and smartphones) which require video post processing more than the already carefully transferred Blu-ray content. If certain driver post processing features are available only for Blu-ray playback, then, it is as good as not being available for consumers to take advantage.
In the table below, we indicate the maximum score possible for each test, and how much the 7750 was able to get with AMD's Catalyst 12.1-based launch drivers.
AMD 7750 : HQV 2.0 Benchmark | ||||
Test Class | Chapter | Tests | Max. Score | Radeon HD 7750 |
Video Conversion | Video Resolution | Dial | 5 | 5 |
Dial with Static Pattern | 5 | 5 | ||
Gray Bars | 5 | 5 | ||
Violin | 5 | 5 | ||
Film Resolution | Stadium 2:2 | 5 | 5 | |
Stadium 3:2 | 5 | 5 | ||
Overlay On Film | Horizontal Text Scroll | 5 | 5 | |
Vertical Text Scroll | 5 | 5 | ||
Cadence Response Time | Transition to 3:2 Lock | 5 | 5 | |
Transition to 2:2 Lock | 5 | 5 | ||
Multi-Cadence | 2:2:2:4 24 FPS DVCam Video | 5 | 5 | |
2:3:3:2 24 FPS DVCam Video | 5 | 5 | ||
3:2:3:2:2 24 FPS Vari-Speed | 5 | 5 | ||
5:5 12 FPS Animation | 5 | 5 | ||
6:4 12 FPS Animation | 5 | 5 | ||
8:7 8 FPS Animation | 5 | 5 | ||
Color Upsampling Errors | Interlace Chroma Problem (ICP) | 5 | 2 | |
Chroma Upsampling Error (CUE) | 5 | 2 | ||
Noise and Artifact Reduction | Random Noise | SailBoat | 5 | 5 |
Flower | 5 | 5 | ||
Sunrise | 5 | 5 | ||
Harbour Night | 5 | 5 | ||
Compression Artifacts | Scrolling Text | 5 | 5 | |
Roller Coaster | 5 | 5 | ||
Ferris Wheel | 5 | 5 | ||
Bridge Traffic | 5 | 5 | ||
Upscaled Compression Artifacts | Text Pattern | 5 | 3 | |
Roller Coaster | 5 | 3 | ||
Ferris Wheel | 5 | 3 | ||
Bridge Traffic | 5 | 3 | ||
Image Scaling and Enhancements | Scaling and Filtering | Luminance Frequency Bands | 5 | 5 |
Chrominance Frequency Bands | 5 | 5 | ||
Vanishing Text | 5 | 5 | ||
Resolution Enhancement | Brook, Mountain, Flower, Hair, Wood | 15 | 15 | |
Video Conversion | Contrast Enhancement | Theme Park | 5 | 5 |
Driftwood | 5 | 5 | ||
Beach at Dusk | 5 | 5 | ||
White and Black Cats | 5 | 5 | ||
Skin Tone Correction | Skin Tones | 10 | 7 | |
Total Score | 210 | 193 |
We were not able to match what AMD claimed. In all probability, the difference is in the chroma upsampling scores. We already covered this in the Llano review. To recap, the image below is a screen capture while playing the HQV benchmark clip from a Blu-ray ISO on the AMD A8-3850. Note that the light red fringes along the edgs are uniform and extend to the right and the left before tapering off.
Now, let us look at the screen capture when the M2TS is played back using PowerDVD 12 on the Radeon HD 7750.
Zoom into the red stripes on the third row (in the original screenshot) and you can see for yourself that we have some ghost samples extending above and below the actual line of pixels. The screenshot is not at the exact timestamp as that of the Llano sample reproduced above, but the reader should be able to get a general idea of the problem we are hinting at. Readers interested in finding out more about the source of this problem should read up this excellent piece to get more information.
We notified AMD about this issue during the Llano review, but action doesn't seem to have been taken even after 6 months on what is clearly a driver issue. Note that we are not using MPC-HC (which might introduce its own errors in the renderer) in this case, but a standard off-the-shelf commercial player in CyberLink PowerDVD 12. Hopefully, AMD wakes up to this issue soon.
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faizoff - Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - link
I thought the 7770 would outperform the 6850 at least. Great review.sigmatau - Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - link
For AMD cards, you look at the second number to indicate performance. An 8 series card like in the 6850 usualy performs as well or slightly better than a next generation 7 series card like the 7770.The 3rd number also indicates performance, but not nearly as much as the second number.
TerdFerguson - Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - link
er, not really. A 58xx is faster than a 68xx.sigmatau - Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - link
The 68xx series introduced an anomaly in the formula. But generaly what I stated is true.CeriseCogburn - Saturday, March 10, 2012 - link
The anomaly here is the NVIDIA Gtx460 SMOKES the 7770 on everything, in every test, and costs 33% less.I see the crazed fan base cannot bring themselves to say it.
I'll say it - 19 pages unsaid, over a long time.
THE NVIDIA GTX460 SMOKES THIS CARD RO DEATH, AND THERE'S MORE OF THOSE ON NEWEGG FOR LESS MONEY THAN THE 7770.
Spunjji - Thursday, June 21, 2012 - link
My word you are tiresome.nissangtr786 - Thursday, July 5, 2012 - link
Using your logic a gtx 580 smoke the gtx 460.The reason why 7770 costs a bit is because its new technology, power consumption goes down quite a bit. Compare the card to same power consumption of new generation card maybe a 7870 and the 7870 will smoke the gtx 460.
perferformance per watt 7770m smokes the gtx 460.
lambchowder - Thursday, November 1, 2012 - link
you seriously need to stop posting. everything you post comes off as rabid nvidia fanatic, because you evidently are one, and you seem to camp outside these benchmarks to say the same thing everytime!! "this thing SMOKES~~~~!! the 7770!!! thats all i look at are the frame rates!!! i dont take anything else into consideration cause im an nvidia superfan"Beararam1 - Thursday, February 16, 2012 - link
Really? I thought the 6870>5850. No?CeriseCogburn - Saturday, March 10, 2012 - link
This 7k series needs some www.verdetrol.com--
LOL - How low can you go amd ?
Seems like more firings and cullings are in the works - or perhaps they already dragged the cat in and are now stuck with perverts.