>11:46AM EDT - Discussing going beyond the GUI and mouse and keyboard
Ah I see the Lizard people at MS's upper management still drink heavily.
Open letter to MS:
Dear replicant humans,
With time all repeated behaviors trend towards the one of maximum efficiency.
For humans interacting with a computer, a big, high resolution monitor with GUIs interacted with by mouse and keyboard is fairly efficient. We have touch screens and whatever and they're really not efficient because moving a hand 10" takes longer than swiping a mouse 0.5".
Or to put this succinctly, you want to MINIMIZE the number of interactions for a desired input.
Also you want to minimize the time the interactions take.
...after the colossal trainwrecks that are Kinekt and Win8, you'd think Microsoft would get that their 'forward thinking' attitudes towards UI are terribly misled and they should let companies not led by robots try innovating in UI.
Then again, if MS isn't attempting innovation it's copying others in a pathetic cashgrab and that's how we ended up with Bing and Winphone.
Ooh! I've got an idea for MS. How about an innovative new Windows release that isn't busy selling user information for ad revenue?
I noticed something else but it deserves its own comment chain.
It seems that despite the massive layoffs when Satya Nadella took over for Steve Ballmer, the lizard-people responsible for Kinect and Windows 8's UI disaster somehow maintained their jobs into the Nadella era.
If you're the humans, then who's buying and using all these lovely tablets with touch screens and styli we're making? They're fantastic customers, and it makes sense to target them regardless of whether they are something other than humans capable of engaging with UI design mechanics.
"beyond the GUI and mouse and keyboard" does not have to mean touch screen. And I don't think you honestly want them not to discuss and evaluate new things.
>12:02PM EDT - Terry back on stage discussing Universal Windows Platform (UWP)
Blah blah UWP advantages Windows store good blah.
>12:11PM EDT - devs struggle using WIndows as the home dev box
>12:11PM EDT - Now moving on to hosted web apps
>12:15PM EDT - bash brings the power of open source command line tools to Windows
>12:13PM EDT - Bash should help devs who rely on open source frameworks
I am literally without words. How can MS be so lacking in self-awareness?
The problem with Windows is its not a good open source platform...right after they display a proprietary store's advantages and why it's so great and going to be pushed further.
>12:25PM EDT - Windows 10 is the best platform for Game Developers
I am feeling emotionally assaulted by this stupidity.
>12:13PM EDT - Bash should help devs who rely on open source frameworks
Yeah, I sighed as hard as you did. What point is there in using an open source software if you're in the shell of a closed source operating system? People who are open source software advocates use open source operating systems _and_ software.
Did you know that companies use open source products? Did you know that companies that use open source products might actually be using them for some technical advantage rather than non-profitable warm fuzzies for being an open source advocate?
The point of using an open source software in the shell of a closed source operating system is who actually cares, now you can use the same shell on basically any computer you work with.
Welcome to the real world, where people care about practicality rather than ideology.
> Blah blah UWP advantages Windows store good blah.
Disagree?
> I am literally without words. How can MS be so lacking in self-awareness? The problem with Windows is its not a good open source platform...right after they display a proprietary store's advantages and why it's so great and going to be pushed further.
They enable users to seamlessly run a ton of existing programs which didn't work before, with many of them powerful and somewhat popular. Yet you still make this sound like a bad change. Windows is all about providing a good default choice and many options. This is just one more of them.
> I am feeling emotionally assaulted by this stupidity.
Emotionally assaulted or not, this is till true. Win 10 has the best drivers and hardware support of all platforms, complemented by DX12 and the store with UWP, should a developer want to use them.
I am feeling emotionally assaulted by this stupidity.
Going by the rest of your whining in this comment section, it does seem like your fragile view of what is right and wrong has taken quite a serious beating.
I already uninstalled windows and switched to ubuntu. Microsoft was downloading updates that I didn't want, and changed my settings constantly. so microsoft, fuckyou. I hope windows 10 crashes and burns to the ground so you can make a proper os.
Actually, free Xamarin is the biggest announcement at the time, though the bot network is a start of a something that could change the way we do a lot if things if it succeeds...
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davegraham - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
can you get rid of that massive header picture? it forces content to the very bottom of the page.Arnulf - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
Yeah and who came up with the bright idea of posting this stuff in reverse-chronological order?!Are we supposed to read it from the bottom up?
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It was always done this way on Anandtech, even for the last Apple keynote about a week ago.That being said, it's still an awful format.
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its a PITA when it refreshes and you need to keep scrolling down. This way the page stays staticSpace Jam - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
>11:46AM EDT - Discussing going beyond the GUI and mouse and keyboardAh I see the Lizard people at MS's upper management still drink heavily.
Open letter to MS:
Dear replicant humans,
With time all repeated behaviors trend towards the one of maximum efficiency.
For humans interacting with a computer, a big, high resolution monitor with GUIs interacted with by mouse and keyboard is fairly efficient. We have touch screens and whatever and they're really not efficient because moving a hand 10" takes longer than swiping a mouse 0.5".
Or to put this succinctly, you want to MINIMIZE the number of interactions for a desired input.
Thanks,
Humans
Space Jam - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
Also you want to minimize the time the interactions take....after the colossal trainwrecks that are Kinekt and Win8, you'd think Microsoft would get that their 'forward thinking' attitudes towards UI are terribly misled and they should let companies not led by robots try innovating in UI.
Then again, if MS isn't attempting innovation it's copying others in a pathetic cashgrab and that's how we ended up with Bing and Winphone.
Ooh! I've got an idea for MS. How about an innovative new Windows release that isn't busy selling user information for ad revenue?
I noticed something else but it deserves its own comment chain.
JoeyJoJo123 - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
It seems that despite the massive layoffs when Satya Nadella took over for Steve Ballmer, the lizard-people responsible for Kinect and Windows 8's UI disaster somehow maintained their jobs into the Nadella era.xthetenth - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
Dear Humans,If you're the humans, then who's buying and using all these lovely tablets with touch screens and styli we're making? They're fantastic customers, and it makes sense to target them regardless of whether they are something other than humans capable of engaging with UI design mechanics.
MrSpadge - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
"beyond the GUI and mouse and keyboard" does not have to mean touch screen. And I don't think you honestly want them not to discuss and evaluate new things.Space Jam - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
>12:02PM EDT - Terry back on stage discussing Universal Windows Platform (UWP)Blah blah UWP advantages Windows store good blah.
>12:11PM EDT - devs struggle using WIndows as the home dev box
>12:11PM EDT - Now moving on to hosted web apps
>12:15PM EDT - bash brings the power of open source command line tools to Windows
>12:13PM EDT - Bash should help devs who rely on open source frameworks
I am literally without words. How can MS be so lacking in self-awareness?
The problem with Windows is its not a good open source platform...right after they display a proprietary store's advantages and why it's so great and going to be pushed further.
>12:25PM EDT - Windows 10 is the best platform for Game Developers
I am feeling emotionally assaulted by this stupidity.
Good job MS, you keep up with the propaganda.
JoeyJoJo123 - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
>12:13PM EDT - Bash should help devs who rely on open source frameworksYeah, I sighed as hard as you did. What point is there in using an open source software if you're in the shell of a closed source operating system? People who are open source software advocates use open source operating systems _and_ software.
xthetenth - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
Did you know that companies use open source products? Did you know that companies that use open source products might actually be using them for some technical advantage rather than non-profitable warm fuzzies for being an open source advocate?The point of using an open source software in the shell of a closed source operating system is who actually cares, now you can use the same shell on basically any computer you work with.
Welcome to the real world, where people care about practicality rather than ideology.
Michael Bay - Thursday, March 31, 2016 - link
You`re literally preaching to the loonies here. Stallman bit them someday and now they`re hopeless.MrSpadge - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
Some people use open soucre software because it does the job and is free rather than ideologic fanatism. And I dare say that's the majority of them.MrSpadge - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
> Blah blah UWP advantages Windows store good blah.Disagree?
> I am literally without words. How can MS be so lacking in self-awareness?
The problem with Windows is its not a good open source platform...right after they display a proprietary store's advantages and why it's so great and going to be pushed further.
They enable users to seamlessly run a ton of existing programs which didn't work before, with many of them powerful and somewhat popular. Yet you still make this sound like a bad change. Windows is all about providing a good default choice and many options. This is just one more of them.
> I am feeling emotionally assaulted by this stupidity.
Emotionally assaulted or not, this is till true. Win 10 has the best drivers and hardware support of all platforms, complemented by DX12 and the store with UWP, should a developer want to use them.
at80eighty - Thursday, March 31, 2016 - link
I am feeling emotionally assaulted by this stupidity.Going by the rest of your whining in this comment section, it does seem like your fragile view of what is right and wrong has taken quite a serious beating.
tsk.
osxandwindows - Wednesday, March 30, 2016 - link
I already uninstalled windows and switched to ubuntu.Microsoft was downloading updates that I didn't want, and changed my settings constantly.
so microsoft, fuckyou.
I hope windows 10 crashes and burns to the ground so you can make a proper os.
Michael Bay - Thursday, March 31, 2016 - link
>ubuntyBitch please. If you want to be cool like the cool guys, it`s gentoo in da club.
Lolimaster - Thursday, March 31, 2016 - link
The best Windows upgrade is upgrading to Windows 7.1. Or Win 8.1 update 3 if you're hardcore for the new gui style.LuxZg - Sunday, April 3, 2016 - link
Actually, free Xamarin is the biggest announcement at the time, though the bot network is a start of a something that could change the way we do a lot if things if it succeeds...andjohn2000 - Monday, April 11, 2016 - link
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