"Concerning RAID: often we are asked if it is worth it to buy two 36.7GB drives and RAID them together for performance. Our answer is no; the performance increases are minute, but your stability issues are horrible"
Hmm... I run 2 Hitachi SATA drives in a RAID-0 on a K8V Deluze mobo and I'm getting reads and writes in excess of 100MB/s, games and apps launch noticeably faster, not exactly a "minute" increase. PATA RAID-0 was not that much faster but SATA RAID-0 nearly doubles the speed like SCSI does as far as I can tell. Agreed though that the chances of loosing data is higher, but this is my gaming/audio/video machine and I don't keep valuable data on it.
i forgot to mention about the unsecure data cable... i don't know about your uses but the ones i have used have snapped in very very tightly, maybe it was just the cables that i was using but i actually had problems removing them...
It seems everyone overlooks the potential problem with current generation of SATA drives, which is highlighted at http://ata-atapi.com/sata.htm . BTW, Hale Landis works on the ATA/ATAPI standards, so I have confident with his info. Other than that, the connector is not really secure, which can lead to data loss, is not fixed until SATA-2, and only on external SATA units.
Kristopher, I really am just pulling your leg about the SCSI stuff :) I know no one wants to hear about SCSI due to the high cost-to-capacity ratio. To each his own...
I can't seem to get solid info on this anywhere, and your article really caught my eye since I was hoping to get an answer to this question. There are many of us that were holding out for the "new" 36 GB raptors based on the same mechanics as the 74 GB version, with the fluid bearing motors and all.
Is there any word on whether or not these drives have actually hit the retail channel yet and if they have, where to buy them? Conversely, if they haven't, when are they expected to? A couple of months ago I had read that they would be shipping in April, but April has come and gone without a formal announcement. Thanks for the writeup.
The price delta between PATA and SATA kills me. It doesnt show up much here, but CUSA had a 250GB PATA drive for $160 in my weekly ad, and I see this from one CE store every week (a 250GB PATA drive for $150-$160). I never see SATA drives on sale. And I'm looking to get 3 or 4 so I want prices to dip some more! Bah!
Darn, no coverage of those drives with that interface where you can have, like, up to 15 drives per cable, and cable lengths up to ten meters. And the 5-year warranties, sub-4ms seek times and stuff. Maybe next go-around. :) After all, it's such *new* technology.
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Hehe... sorry Kristopher, I couldn't help myself! :D
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operator - Monday, May 10, 2004 - link
[quote] Do you mind playing a 1 in 10 chance of loosing your data for single digit percentage performance increases? [/quote]Sounds like someone doens't know the difference between losing and loosing.
Zak - Sunday, May 9, 2004 - link
Quote:"Concerning RAID: often we are asked if it is worth it to buy two 36.7GB drives and RAID them together for performance. Our answer is no; the performance increases are minute, but your stability issues are horrible"
Hmm... I run 2 Hitachi SATA drives in a RAID-0 on a K8V Deluze mobo and I'm getting reads and writes in excess of 100MB/s, games and apps launch noticeably faster, not exactly a "minute" increase. PATA RAID-0 was not that much faster but SATA RAID-0 nearly doubles the speed like SCSI does as far as I can tell. Agreed though that the chances of loosing data is higher, but this is my gaming/audio/video machine and I don't keep valuable data on it.
SocrPlyr - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
i forgot to mention about the unsecure data cable... i don't know about your uses but the ones i have used have snapped in very very tightly, maybe it was just the cables that i was using but i actually had problems removing them...Josh
SocrPlyr - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
quantai would have to say the make good points but most of those things hold true for PATA as well... so they aren't anything new...
Josh
quanta - Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - link
It seems everyone overlooks the potential problem with current generation of SATA drives, which is highlighted at http://ata-atapi.com/sata.htm . BTW, Hale Landis works on the ATA/ATAPI standards, so I have confident with his info. Other than that, the connector is not really secure, which can lead to data loss, is not fixed until SATA-2, and only on external SATA units.mechBgon - Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - link
Kristopher, I really am just pulling your leg about the SCSI stuff :) I know no one wants to hear about SCSI due to the high cost-to-capacity ratio. To each his own...Slingman - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
Kristopher,I can't seem to get solid info on this anywhere, and your article really caught my eye since I was hoping to get an answer to this question. There are many of us that were holding out for the "new" 36 GB raptors based on the same mechanics as the 74 GB version, with the fluid bearing motors and all.
Is there any word on whether or not these drives have actually hit the retail channel yet and if they have, where to buy them? Conversely, if they haven't, when are they expected to? A couple of months ago I had read that they would be shipping in April, but April has come and gone without a formal announcement. Thanks for the writeup.
AtaStrumf - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
Well in EU I pay more like $1,75 per disc, and if I want to get some quality It costs me $2,50/disc. And yes that is US dollars!So I think you all should just thank your lucky stars!
Jeff7181 - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
Sorry for being anal... but since when is "RAID" a verb? =)KristopherKubicki - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
True Absolut, but if you go to best buy you can find them for even cheaper after rebate.Kristopher
AbsolutZero - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
"With 8X DVDR-5 drives as cheap as they are (and falling), media practically free and software support mature, why wait?"$0.50/disc is cheap but it adds up. I buy Ritek and its closer to $0.75/disc. Maybe in 6 months we will be down to CDR prices. :)
Doormat - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
The price delta between PATA and SATA kills me. It doesnt show up much here, but CUSA had a 250GB PATA drive for $160 in my weekly ad, and I see this from one CE store every week (a 250GB PATA drive for $150-$160). I never see SATA drives on sale. And I'm looking to get 3 or 4 so I want prices to dip some more! Bah!KristopherKubicki - Sunday, May 2, 2004 - link
Hehe just ran out of time, next time for sure. :-PKristopher
mechBgon - Sunday, May 2, 2004 - link
Darn, no coverage of those drives with that interface where you can have, like, up to 15 drives per cable, and cable lengths up to ten meters. And the 5-year warranties, sub-4ms seek times and stuff. Maybe next go-around. :) After all, it's such *new* technology.;)
Hehe... sorry Kristopher, I couldn't help myself! :D