The comparison sheet on page 10 states the Ramdac speed is 300MHz, exactly what was stated when the review was published. Where is the comparison sheet that states 400 for the Ramdac speed?
Does anybody know whether 9100IGP Pro will run ATI's Multimedia Center 9.0 and EazyShare. This might be just the ticket for a low cost multimedia PC for living room and bedroom to view PVR captures from a networked media server.
I like how IGPs keep improving --say goodbye to Intel Extreme Graphics 2 and onboard GF4MX. The IGP may very well be a major decision in my future purchases, if not the next.
#12 - Asute of you to catch the Sata RAID in the diagram. Unfortunately the diagram also shows IXP 300 when the board had an IXP 320.
We have asked ATI for clarification on whether SATA RAID is an option. They are all in Barcelona, Spain for the big X800 kick-0ff tomorrow, so we might not have an answer for a few days.
#10 - As for the comment about mfg suck-up, GET REAL. Mfgs HOPE they will get a good review from us because we are honest, but more often than not mfgs complain we are too negative in pointing out failings with their product. That means we probably have it about right.
#4 - If you bothered to read the review you would have found the MAIN message was the RS350 competes very well with Intel AS A CHIPSET, which SHOULD be of interest to you. The other news was that Prescott optimizations make Prescott a better performer than Northwood on the new chips. Yes, we coverd Integrated Graphics, because it mattered, but that was not the main point. It wasn't a slow news day - the NDA expired at 6AM today, as the X800 NDA expires tomorrow. The RS350 is a damn good chipset or I wouldn't have bothered.
"Who that comes to this site give a flying f*ck about integrated graphics"
"where are the x800 bencharks?? that's what we care about."
"Stop with these goddamn AT sponsor suckup/teaser "ref board" reviews."
First, where the heck did all of these MUTANTS come from? This is AT. Not eXtremeTechOmgFPSAWesome.org.
Second, x800 is under NDA until its launched, for the love of god. Anandtech CANT say anything about it.
Third, LOTS of Anandtech users care about Integrated Graphics. ALOT of the people who come to Anandtech system build for money/pleasure. Just go to the Forums and find out. This is an IT Tech site, NOT a "Gamers Only" site. Hence the server storys, etc.
Finally, I for one enjoy the fact that Anandtech tests boards that most other sites dont have BEFORE they are on the shelf. Anandtech ALSO tests AFTER they are on the shelf to compare. Why WOULDNT they test the board they get sent, to let everyone know? And I like the way you imply that AnandTech only gets pre-release boards because they are sponsored by the company and want a favorable review. You certainly havent been coming here long if you think that.
allisolm good job on the empty post. But otherwise, in the article, it is stated that the chipset just supports SATA ports, but in the chipset diagram, it shows RAID 0 and 1 supported. Any clue as to which is right? Also, it is always good to see integrated graphics performance, especially for the reason that many moderately proced laptop haves integrated graphics (not my A64 rad 9600, but still), and it is good to see them approach playable levels. Jason
Its hard ro understand how you can 'optimise' for a different x86 cpu (nf3 and nVidia Gpus optimisation is a different story) unless they are taking advantage of some of the extra 'secret' X86-64 registers on the Prescott.
Stop with these goddamn AT sponsor suckup/teaser "ref board" reviews. If it aint final - dont look at it. All this crap is obsolete now anyway in just a few months. Give me a break. Talk about a white elephant.
It was your imagination! It's supposed to come out tomorrow May 4th or on Wednesday May 5th.
As for IGP tests: Why the hell not test them? If you dont like it just skip it bitch! I know I was quite interested in the results and I'm sure so were many others.
Nice to see ATi finaly come out with a good chipset (cross your fingers for OC-ing being as good as they say), so that the two GPU giants have now fairly devided the two top CPU manufacturers.
All i'm saying is it must be a slow day in the news department :)
i understand the interest, which i have as well, but in all honesty, anyone concerned about playing games, won't get a system with an IG, and anyone that does, will be disappointed no matter what IG is in there. Whether they get 19FPS or 21FPS, they're not going to be happy.
anyway, where's the x800 stuff? wasn't that supposed to come out first of may? or was that my imagination again.
There's a typo on the IGP test config page, it states ATi 865G where it should read Intel.
BTW, I'm always very interested in IGP reviews as white box builder a good 80% of my biz is budget IGP systems.
IMHO though, IGP with a $150+ CPU does not equate budget and Celerons won't find a place in my builds unless intel decides to make them more competitive in the sub $100 market vs AMD.
Now, the last thing to answer is wether ATi finally got the overclocking right ;)
Unlike all these other guys, I do care about Intergrated Graphics...not because I own one (I got A64), but because many people do. Most everyday people buy systems from OEMs like Dell, who sell alot of systems with IGs.
Alot of first time users buy systems that are cheap, and sometimes suck. It is nice to see that if someone wants to build a cheap system they can still play any older DX7 games at reasonably high fps and newer DX8.1/9 games at playable 640x480.
Who that comes to this site give a flying f*ck about integrated graphics?? Whether you're comparing a Yugo GV or a Yugo GVX, ITS STILL A FRICKING YUGO!!!
where are the x800 bencharks?? that's what we care about.
To bad the 2.8 Prescott's are worthless considering how they hardly out shine their Northwood counter parts. But it's interesting to see how a Prescott tweaked mobo performed.
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Wesley Fink - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
My apologies. The chart was supplied by ATI and shows a Clock Speed of 300 and a Ramdac of 400.SocrPlyr - Wednesday, May 5, 2004 - link
The comparison sheet on page 10 definately has 400MHz for the RAMDAC...it is a picture, and pictures don't lie :)
Josh
Wesley Fink - Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - link
The comparison sheet on page 10 states the Ramdac speed is 300MHz, exactly what was stated when the review was published. Where is the comparison sheet that states 400 for the Ramdac speed?quanta - Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - link
Are you sure the RAMDAC on 9100 IGP Pro is really 400MHz? The ATI site says it is 300MHz, but the comparison sheet in your site says 400MHz.gofor55 - Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - link
Does anybody know whether 9100IGP Pro will run ATI's Multimedia Center 9.0 and EazyShare. This might be just the ticket for a low cost multimedia PC for living room and bedroom to view PVR captures from a networked media server.Pumpkinierre - Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - link
So Wesley any indications in that ATI note as to how they optimise for Prescott?Wesley Fink - Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - link
ATI confirmed SATA RAID was present on RS350, not AOpen. Must have been a petit mal . . .Wesley Fink - Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - link
#12 -AOpen has confirmed that RS350 DOES support SATA RAID 0,1. We confiormed SATA RAID works fine with a pair of WD Raptors in a stripe.
The review will be updated to correct the SATA information.
Kai920 - Tuesday, May 4, 2004 - link
#14 - Very well said.I like how IGPs keep improving --say goodbye to Intel Extreme Graphics 2 and onboard GF4MX. The IGP may very well be a major decision in my future purchases, if not the next.
Wesley Fink - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
#12 -Asute of you to catch the Sata RAID in the diagram. Unfortunately the diagram also shows IXP 300 when the board had an IXP 320.
We have asked ATI for clarification on whether SATA RAID is an option. They are all in Barcelona, Spain for the big X800 kick-0ff tomorrow, so we might not have an answer for a few days.
#10 -
As for the comment about mfg suck-up, GET REAL. Mfgs HOPE they will get a good review from us because we are honest, but more often than not mfgs complain we are too negative in pointing out failings with their product. That means we probably have it about right.
#4 - If you bothered to read the review you would have found the MAIN message was the RS350 competes very well with Intel AS A CHIPSET, which SHOULD be of interest to you. The other news was that Prescott optimizations make Prescott a better performer than Northwood on the new chips. Yes, we coverd Integrated Graphics, because it mattered, but that was not the main point. It wasn't a slow news day - the NDA expired at 6AM today, as the X800 NDA expires tomorrow. The RS350 is a damn good chipset or I wouldn't have bothered.
Cygni - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
"Who that comes to this site give a flying f*ck about integrated graphics""where are the x800 bencharks?? that's what we care about."
"Stop with these goddamn AT sponsor suckup/teaser "ref board" reviews."
First, where the heck did all of these MUTANTS come from? This is AT. Not eXtremeTechOmgFPSAWesome.org.
Second, x800 is under NDA until its launched, for the love of god. Anandtech CANT say anything about it.
Third, LOTS of Anandtech users care about Integrated Graphics. ALOT of the people who come to Anandtech system build for money/pleasure. Just go to the Forums and find out. This is an IT Tech site, NOT a "Gamers Only" site. Hence the server storys, etc.
Finally, I for one enjoy the fact that Anandtech tests boards that most other sites dont have BEFORE they are on the shelf. Anandtech ALSO tests AFTER they are on the shelf to compare. Why WOULDNT they test the board they get sent, to let everyone know? And I like the way you imply that AnandTech only gets pre-release boards because they are sponsored by the company and want a favorable review. You certainly havent been coming here long if you think that.
Myrandex - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
also, what is up with the constant testing of bank interleave set to disabled, doesn't it help memory performance?Myrandex - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
allisolm good job on the empty post. But otherwise, in the article, it is stated that the chipset just supports SATA ports, but in the chipset diagram, it shows RAID 0 and 1 supported. Any clue as to which is right? Also, it is always good to see integrated graphics performance, especially for the reason that many moderately proced laptop haves integrated graphics (not my A64 rad 9600, but still), and it is good to see them approach playable levels.Jason
Pumpkinierre - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
Its hard ro understand how you can 'optimise' for a different x86 cpu (nf3 and nVidia Gpus optimisation is a different story) unless they are taking advantage of some of the extra 'secret' X86-64 registers on the Prescott.Bozo Galora - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
Stop with these goddamn AT sponsor suckup/teaser "ref board" reviews.
If it aint final - dont look at it.
All this crap is obsolete now anyway in just a few months.
Give me a break.
Talk about a white elephant.
AtaStrumf - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
It was your imagination! It's supposed to come out tomorrow May 4th or on Wednesday May 5th.As for IGP tests: Why the hell not test them? If you dont like it just skip it bitch! I know I was quite interested in the results and I'm sure so were many others.
Nice to see ATi finaly come out with a good chipset (cross your fingers for OC-ing being as good as they say), so that the two GPU giants have now fairly devided the two top CPU manufacturers.
araczynski - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
All i'm saying is it must be a slow day in the news department :)i understand the interest, which i have as well, but in all honesty, anyone concerned about playing games, won't get a system with an IG, and anyone that does, will be disappointed no matter what IG is in there. Whether they get 19FPS or 21FPS, they're not going to be happy.
anyway, where's the x800 stuff? wasn't that supposed to come out first of may? or was that my imagination again.
DAPUNISHER - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
There's a typo on the IGP test config page, it states ATi 865G where it should read Intel.BTW, I'm always very interested in IGP reviews as white box builder a good 80% of my biz is budget IGP systems.
IMHO though, IGP with a $150+ CPU does not equate budget and Celerons won't find a place in my builds unless intel decides to make them more competitive in the sub $100 market vs AMD.
Now, the last thing to answer is wether ATi finally got the overclocking right ;)
allisolm - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
NullSubroutine - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
Unlike all these other guys, I do care about Intergrated Graphics...not because I own one (I got A64), but because many people do. Most everyday people buy systems from OEMs like Dell, who sell alot of systems with IGs.Alot of first time users buy systems that are cheap, and sometimes suck. It is nice to see that if someone wants to build a cheap system they can still play any older DX7 games at reasonably high fps and newer DX8.1/9 games at playable 640x480.
araczynski - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
Who that comes to this site give a flying f*ck about integrated graphics?? Whether you're comparing a Yugo GV or a Yugo GVX, ITS STILL A FRICKING YUGO!!!where are the x800 bencharks?? that's what we care about.
Regs - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
To bad the 2.8 Prescott's are worthless considering how they hardly out shine their Northwood counter parts. But it's interesting to see how a Prescott tweaked mobo performed.Marsumane - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
Integrated graphics that still suck!Although they are just like the comparison between the 9800xt and the 6800u. 2x as fast)
MAME - Monday, May 3, 2004 - link
nVidia -> King of AthlonXPsATI -> King of Prescotts