Well since this board is not for %99 of readers on this site, its more than likely if you are spending that much for a board you going to get stand alone NIC for that. Anandtech likes to for some reason review stuff now that is business/IT/Phone related more than consumer stuff.
Big consumer stuff has, well slowed down. Sky Lake was released 3.5 years ago and since then Intel has boosted clocked, bumped up core counts and polished the chipset. AMD released Ryzen which got lots of coverage but the Zen+ refresh was mainly polishing off the first release. Zen 2 is still a little bit away so news will at least pick up on the consumer CPU side soon.
The GPU side of things hasn't been that exciting as AMD and nVidia are seemingly content where they are in the market. The mining boom shifted prices upward which neither company is eager to reverse. The GTX 1660 Ti is actually a fairly big thing for consumers but that level of performance could be had years ago if you had the cash back then for a high end card. AMD's Navi will be another step forward for consumer but again will be over shadowed by the previous generation of highend hardware that carried higher prices.
I hope the next big thing is a wider product line up of gaming displays now that HDMI 2.1 has adopted variable refresh rate support, nVidia supports Freesync displays (soft of) and Intel will finally be adding Freesync support too. Things are lining up for this to go mainstream. Though much like CPU and GPU news, variable refresh rate support has been around for years on other hardware.
I see 2.5 and 5 Gbit hardware taking of on the consumer side along with 802.11ax (Wifi 6) enabled devices. Wireless is starting to move beyond a gigabit of bandwidth so the wired side of connectivity also has to evolve. Though it feels odd celebrating the release of 2.5 and 5 Gbit speeds when 10 Gbit has been around for years.
If you want a real wide guess of what the next big consumer thing will be that really hasn't spread in the high end yet would be network based audio transport. Stuff like PoE enabled network speakers that integrate with other smart home devices. Stuff like this exists on the professional side of things but even there you'd have to look for it.
Prosumer boards serve a purpose just as much as consumer desktop boards. I personally like focusing on consumer boards, but when I get asked to look at workstation boards, it makes a nice change!
I would question the accuracy of the 99% statistic regarding readers. While I am myself a consumer as an individual, my profession is in enterprise computing and networking so products outside of the consumer space are of an interest to me as much as are consumer electronics. I think quite a few of us are in a similar state, working in information technology and reading to stay caught up on broader developments. Sure, individual workstation motherboards are a bit of an oddity as most workstations are major muscle movement purchases that are acquired from hardware company like HP or Dell, but they are still relevant so I'm happy to see them getting a little word count now and then.
You see, this is how to report a typo (or "thinko"). No sarcasm, attacks, or diatribe about how Anandtech must be a shill for the reviewed item's manufacturer.
"Note however that despite the naming, the new 28-core Intel Xeon W-3175X isn’t supported by the MW51-HP0 since that that chip uses a different socket." second paragraph
Are there any half-decent professional/workstation Threadripper boards? Esp with the upcoming (based on leaked slides) threadripper 3, this would be very good to have... All vendors have gaming boards, for which Threadripper isn't very suitable.
Specifically what features are these so called "gaming" X399 boards missing that you absolutely need? People aren't buying them to game, & they really aren't designed for such. That just happen the dominant "aesthetic" in consumer motherboards atm.
Never really did a custom build of a server, it's always whatever Dell offers in its webpage, with the three hours replacement warranty. This is interesting enough, but hardly changes anything. Maybe for a workstation it will fare better.
Wow that's a really shitty rear panel USB arrangement. basically all the USB3 ports are bandwidth limited with a bottleneck of 10gbps, since they're hooked up to a hub directly after South bridge, and the only separate chipset ports are wasted on "front panel" sockets. The same goes for USB2, and GL850 is one of the cheapest 2.0 hubs in existence, it's not even Multi TT, blah.
anyway for half a grand cost board i certainly expected better USB engineering.
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colonelclaw - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
The lack of 10GB Ethernet mars what is otherwise an attractive bit of kit, both technically and aesthetically.imaheadcase - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
Well since this board is not for %99 of readers on this site, its more than likely if you are spending that much for a board you going to get stand alone NIC for that. Anandtech likes to for some reason review stuff now that is business/IT/Phone related more than consumer stuff.Kevin G - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
Big consumer stuff has, well slowed down. Sky Lake was released 3.5 years ago and since then Intel has boosted clocked, bumped up core counts and polished the chipset. AMD released Ryzen which got lots of coverage but the Zen+ refresh was mainly polishing off the first release. Zen 2 is still a little bit away so news will at least pick up on the consumer CPU side soon.The GPU side of things hasn't been that exciting as AMD and nVidia are seemingly content where they are in the market. The mining boom shifted prices upward which neither company is eager to reverse. The GTX 1660 Ti is actually a fairly big thing for consumers but that level of performance could be had years ago if you had the cash back then for a high end card. AMD's Navi will be another step forward for consumer but again will be over shadowed by the previous generation of highend hardware that carried higher prices.
I hope the next big thing is a wider product line up of gaming displays now that HDMI 2.1 has adopted variable refresh rate support, nVidia supports Freesync displays (soft of) and Intel will finally be adding Freesync support too. Things are lining up for this to go mainstream. Though much like CPU and GPU news, variable refresh rate support has been around for years on other hardware.
I see 2.5 and 5 Gbit hardware taking of on the consumer side along with 802.11ax (Wifi 6) enabled devices. Wireless is starting to move beyond a gigabit of bandwidth so the wired side of connectivity also has to evolve. Though it feels odd celebrating the release of 2.5 and 5 Gbit speeds when 10 Gbit has been around for years.
If you want a real wide guess of what the next big consumer thing will be that really hasn't spread in the high end yet would be network based audio transport. Stuff like PoE enabled network speakers that integrate with other smart home devices. Stuff like this exists on the professional side of things but even there you'd have to look for it.
gavbon - Friday, March 8, 2019 - link
Prosumer boards serve a purpose just as much as consumer desktop boards. I personally like focusing on consumer boards, but when I get asked to look at workstation boards, it makes a nice change!PeachNCream - Friday, March 8, 2019 - link
I would question the accuracy of the 99% statistic regarding readers. While I am myself a consumer as an individual, my profession is in enterprise computing and networking so products outside of the consumer space are of an interest to me as much as are consumer electronics. I think quite a few of us are in a similar state, working in information technology and reading to stay caught up on broader developments. Sure, individual workstation motherboards are a bit of an oddity as most workstations are major muscle movement purchases that are acquired from hardware company like HP or Dell, but they are still relevant so I'm happy to see them getting a little word count now and then.CheapSushi - Thursday, March 7, 2019 - link
Not even 10GB but 2.5G and 5G at least, especially now that controllers are more affordable. 2.5G should be basically standard now in 2019.Kevin G - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
Typo on the first page:"A total of eight DDR4 channels are present and allow users to run memory in quad-channel memory mode"
I believe you mean eight DIMM slots in quad-channel memory mode.
Ryan Smith - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
Thanks!Sivar - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
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kalm_traveler - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
The Xeon W-3175x is not a 32 core chip; it is 'only' 28 core.gavbon - Friday, March 8, 2019 - link
Hey, sorry! I have 32 core on the brain at the moment. Will edit when I'm on the train! Thanks for pointing it outMDD1963 - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
With the W-3175X and this mainboard, I think I could assemble quite a snappy FreeNAS rig for home use! :/Xpl1c1t - Thursday, March 7, 2019 - link
"Note however that despite the naming, the new 28-core Intel Xeon W-3175X isn’t supported by the MW51-HP0 since that that chip uses a different socket." second paragraphgavbon - Friday, March 8, 2019 - link
The W-3175 is C621, but I'm going to be looking at the ROG Dominus Extreme at some point in the next month!Hixbot - Wednesday, March 6, 2019 - link
I cant help but drool at the thought of a 512MB RAM drive.jospoortvliet - Thursday, March 7, 2019 - link
Are there any half-decent professional/workstation Threadripper boards? Esp with the upcoming (based on leaked slides) threadripper 3, this would be very good to have... All vendors have gaming boards, for which Threadripper isn't very suitable.Cooe - Thursday, March 7, 2019 - link
Specifically what features are these so called "gaming" X399 boards missing that you absolutely need? People aren't buying them to game, & they really aren't designed for such. That just happen the dominant "aesthetic" in consumer motherboards atm.gavbon - Friday, March 8, 2019 - link
The Asrock X399 Phantom Gaming 6 board review is coming soon and in all honesty, gaming features these days are limited to NIC, audio and software.El Sama - Monday, March 11, 2019 - link
Never really did a custom build of a server, it's always whatever Dell offers in its webpage, with the three hours replacement warranty. This is interesting enough, but hardly changes anything. Maybe for a workstation it will fare better.timecop1818 - Saturday, March 30, 2019 - link
Wow that's a really shitty rear panel USB arrangement. basically all the USB3 ports are bandwidth limited with a bottleneck of 10gbps, since they're hooked up to a hub directly after South bridge, and the only separate chipset ports are wasted on "front panel" sockets. The same goes for USB2, and GL850 is one of the cheapest 2.0 hubs in existence, it's not even Multi TT, blah.anyway for half a grand cost board i certainly expected better USB engineering.
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