Looks like a nice phone if you like the flashy look. The price is good as well. The one thing that makes me step back from it maybe is the no 3.5 head phone jack but I am guessing they would include something that allows for that through an adapter from the usb port. If they do I would also hope you could charge the phone while using the adapter or it is kinda useless then. If they do not include something to allow head phones with 2.5 plugs then this is a straight up no go. I have several decent head phones all of which are 3.5 plugs or have USB adaters to connect to the computer through regular USB ports. I have a set of decent blue tooth head phones that work either from blue tooth or 3.5 jack and the audio quality is far better through the 3.5 jack than it is from the blue tooth.
What tasks\games actually utilize more than 8GB of RAM on Android? Or even 4GB for that matter? I know phones are getting more and more powerful every year, but at some point it's like buying a GT 730 with 4GB of DDR3... all marketing, and no practical benefit.
Are these phones actually powerful enough to make use of 50% more RAM than an Xbox One X or PS4 Pro?
You're forgetting that part of that memory is dedicated to the gpu, it acts as video memory too. My browser is using 400mb of memory now, that's just one app.
Quait simply no. 8 GB is more than enough. It would be much more beneficial to have faster (true output) with lower latency RAM than more of it. It's actually shameful how ARM SoC's are made regarding RAM usually utilising 2x16 ~ 4x16 bit controller's. HMB would blast things up for a top range of SoC's.
Who knows, there maybe people who play pubg with a couple of casual games in background, with some chrome tabs open for hints, while recording their entire gameplay and chatting on whatsapp
While I am not necessarily looking for a gaming phone, if those prices are correct, I would be seriously tempted. Just hope they get the camera right. With an okay camera and this price range, it'll be hard to resist.
Certainly there are exceptions, but most of the time when "people" are saying or doing two different things that seem to be fundamentally in opposition to each other, it's because they're not actually the same people.
yeah their miui has some interesting features, but its too much riddled with ads and i couldn't really trust what all they could be sending to their servers. But they are still quite value for money even if the hard work of installing another rom is factored
higher spec, same battery... for a while Xiaomi ad really solid "large" battery, now they seem to up the speed/spec last 2 odd years but not battery (besides some of the Mi phones such Mi Max type deal) ESPECIALLY when listed as "gaming"
Gaming needs MORE life, not the same with even higher speed
you bunch of fool phone makers (that goes to Samsung, LG, Apple (kind of) Motorola etc) especially when they put the label "flagship"
I know "designer" flagships like motorcycles or Ferrari is one thing, but these phones are designed for "heavy use" over the long term, saddling with a too small battery will cook the crud out of it..
if they do "gaming" they should supply a second battery at least IMO (would be better than nothing) phones we need replace at some point, battery often die quicke (specially when WAY more juice required) so make battery removable or not call "gaming" nor "flagship"
Battery's are heavy, 4 Ah one for instance is about 80g. When you take in consideration how this needs cooling & cetera it all adds to the weight. The best practice would be dropping back to 16:9 displays up to 6" and adding physical buttons in the area that is currently occupied with out of ordinary display proportions saving around 20% power that is waisted on display.
Actually, I guess most Taiwanese will consider themselves Chinese. The very point of Taiwan as I remember is that they don't want to be part of the "people's republic".
And I would also prefer products from a company under less direct coersion than those in the US, UK, Iran or the PRC.
Bluetooth connected controller accessory is a waste imo...They could have implemented a physical connection with next to no latency, much better for games requiring fast responses...
The above part is rather confusing where it shows UFS 3.0 but then says USB 2.0 type C for Data. Big difference for Data transfer speed when using cable. Which is it..?
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rocky12345 - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link
Looks like a nice phone if you like the flashy look. The price is good as well. The one thing that makes me step back from it maybe is the no 3.5 head phone jack but I am guessing they would include something that allows for that through an adapter from the usb port. If they do I would also hope you could charge the phone while using the adapter or it is kinda useless then. If they do not include something to allow head phones with 2.5 plugs then this is a straight up no go. I have several decent head phones all of which are 3.5 plugs or have USB adaters to connect to the computer through regular USB ports. I have a set of decent blue tooth head phones that work either from blue tooth or 3.5 jack and the audio quality is far better through the 3.5 jack than it is from the blue tooth.ZolaIII - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
Buy a DAP (DAC AMP +BT) my recommendation goes to the Shanling M0, if you want more power & "balanced" 2.5 mm jack then go for Shanling M2X.ozzuneoj86 - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link
What tasks\games actually utilize more than 8GB of RAM on Android? Or even 4GB for that matter? I know phones are getting more and more powerful every year, but at some point it's like buying a GT 730 with 4GB of DDR3... all marketing, and no practical benefit.Are these phones actually powerful enough to make use of 50% more RAM than an Xbox One X or PS4 Pro?
jordanclock - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link
I certainly make use of the 8GB of RAM on my OP7Pro. It means my apps are hardly ever killed in the background, so multitasking is way faster.shabby - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link
You're forgetting that part of that memory is dedicated to the gpu, it acts as video memory too.My browser is using 400mb of memory now, that's just one app.
ZolaIII - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
Quait simply no. 8 GB is more than enough. It would be much more beneficial to have faster (true output) with lower latency RAM than more of it. It's actually shameful how ARM SoC's are made regarding RAM usually utilising 2x16 ~ 4x16 bit controller's. HMB would blast things up for a top range of SoC's.leo_sk - Monday, August 5, 2019 - link
Who knows, there maybe people who play pubg with a couple of casual games in background, with some chrome tabs open for hints, while recording their entire gameplay and chatting on whatsappeastcoast_pete - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link
While I am not necessarily looking for a gaming phone, if those prices are correct, I would be seriously tempted. Just hope they get the camera right. With an okay camera and this price range, it'll be hard to resist.Peter2k - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
Ya know, I'm amused how many people are foaming at Epic Game Store being "owned" by chinese and the supposed privacy concernsBut people hand over, potentially, by using a chinese cell phone
Just a random observation
Btw, my wife hates her Xiaomi, the handling from the UI feels off, and frankly I concur
Shrugs
Potatoes, potatoes
chaos215bar2 - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
Certainly there are exceptions, but most of the time when "people" are saying or doing two different things that seem to be fundamentally in opposition to each other, it's because they're not actually the same people.Rookierookie - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link
Why not rail against people using ThinkPads?leo_sk - Monday, August 5, 2019 - link
yeah their miui has some interesting features, but its too much riddled with ads and i couldn't really trust what all they could be sending to their servers. But they are still quite value for money even if the hard work of installing another rom is factoredDragonstongue - Wednesday, July 31, 2019 - link
higher spec, same battery... for a while Xiaomi ad really solid "large" battery, now they seem to up the speed/spec last 2 odd years but not battery (besides some of the Mi phones such Mi Max type deal) ESPECIALLY when listed as "gaming"Gaming needs MORE life, not the same with even higher speed
you bunch of fool phone makers (that goes to Samsung, LG, Apple (kind of) Motorola etc) especially when they put the label "flagship"
I know "designer" flagships like motorcycles or Ferrari is one thing, but these phones are designed for "heavy use" over the long term, saddling with a too small battery will cook the crud out of it..
if they do "gaming" they should supply a second battery at least IMO (would be better than nothing) phones we need replace at some point, battery often die quicke (specially when WAY more juice required) so make battery removable or not call "gaming" nor "flagship"
them putzes ^.^
ZolaIII - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
Battery's are heavy, 4 Ah one for instance is about 80g. When you take in consideration how this needs cooling & cetera it all adds to the weight. The best practice would be dropping back to 16:9 displays up to 6" and adding physical buttons in the area that is currently occupied with out of ordinary display proportions saving around 20% power that is waisted on display.leo_sk - Monday, August 5, 2019 - link
A removable battery with 3-5 min backup integrated into the phone could make quite a lot of sensePeter2k - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
This seems to be directed to compete with the ROG phone 2At a glance specs are mostly the same, including a 1080p panel low input lag, in screen fingerprint, same MP camera, and such
And flashiness
Only difference I see is this phone uses a smaller battery (ROG phone 2 is 6000mAh), and sorta 3 times the price
I would put the ROG 2 next to the Xiaomi in for comparison
nimi - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
The ROG2 has a 3.5mm jack AND an additional USB-C port, for a total of 2 - on a freaking phone!On the gimmicky spectrum, the ROG2 has two "AirTriggers".
And, more importantly now than ever, ASUS is not a Chinese company, that in my book is a huge difference.
leo_sk - Monday, August 5, 2019 - link
People's Republic of China begs to differabufrejoval - Tuesday, August 6, 2019 - link
Actually, I guess most Taiwanese will consider themselves Chinese. The very point of Taiwan as I remember is that they don't want to be part of the "people's republic".And I would also prefer products from a company under less direct coersion than those in the US, UK, Iran or the PRC.
LiverpoolFC5903 - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
Bluetooth connected controller accessory is a waste imo...They could have implemented a physical connection with next to no latency, much better for games requiring fast responses...No 3.5 mm is also a bummer.
Oxynux - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link
When Xiaomi will start using USB 3.1 for theirs Smartphone ?techgadgetgeek - Wednesday, August 7, 2019 - link
The above part is rather confusing where it shows UFS 3.0 but then says USB 2.0 type C for Data. Big difference for Data transfer speed when using cable. Which is it..?