They've decided on a number of pins, I doubt they have the socket designed and that timeline is really ambitious without any silicon, either cpu or chipset, let alone _validated_ pcie5.
They will be lucky to hit that, I'd wager a timeline closer to 2022 than 2021.
Following the cadence of LGA 3647 -> LGA 4189, I wouldn't expect any more memory channels. Rather the extra pins I fathom are for the changes from DDR4 -> DDR5, more PCIe lanes, more UPI lanes for additional sockets and of course, more power. In particular PCIe lanes as that is a clear short coming compared to AMD's platform.
TE's brochure for their LGA 4189 socket says that the durability of the socket is 30 cycles. That will probably affect a few people whom test different CPUs on the same motherboard.
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DigitalFreak - Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - link
"Meanwhile, it is too early to make guesses about exact TDP levels"True TDP of 1000w is my guess.
sgeocla - Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - link
They got the socket figured out. Now all they need is the CPU.svan1971 - Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - link
anything they can say to make you hold off on that Ryzen 4.0 build nowrahvin - Thursday, October 17, 2019 - link
They've decided on a number of pins, I doubt they have the socket designed and that timeline is really ambitious without any silicon, either cpu or chipset, let alone _validated_ pcie5.They will be lucky to hit that, I'd wager a timeline closer to 2022 than 2021.
Operandi - Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - link
"Meanwhile, it is too early to make guesses about exact TDP levels."Making guesses about anything exact is a dumb idea generally. Just don't do it.
PixyMisa - Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - link
1.21 gigawatts.MDD1963 - Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - link
When the magic '1.21 GW' number is used/referenced, it must always be spelled, or pronounced if spoken, as 'jiggawatts'! :)TheUnhandledException - Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - link
So Intel will be PCIe 3 only until 2021. Yeah Ryzen looking better and better.Arsenica - Thursday, October 17, 2019 - link
PCIe 4 is coming in 2020 for LGA4189 server chips.In the consumer space I have no idea of when they'll introduce PCIe4 or 5
Qasar - Thursday, October 17, 2019 - link
a lot of good that does for us consumers :-)mkaibear - Thursday, October 17, 2019 - link
>a lot of good that does for us consumers :-)You say that like PCIe 4.0 is anything more than a marketing gimmick at the moment...
damianrobertjones - Thursday, October 17, 2019 - link
If the existing stuff is selling, you don't introduce something new. Max that $$$$$/££££brunis.dk - Thursday, October 17, 2019 - link
I'm glad Intel is letting their customers know what's available from AMD today.brunis.dk - Thursday, October 17, 2019 - link
how do i delete my own ignorant comments? :PEliadbu - Thursday, October 17, 2019 - link
No option, just suck it up. I promise no one will die.Kevin G - Thursday, October 17, 2019 - link
Following the cadence of LGA 3647 -> LGA 4189, I wouldn't expect any more memory channels. Rather the extra pins I fathom are for the changes from DDR4 -> DDR5, more PCIe lanes, more UPI lanes for additional sockets and of course, more power. In particular PCIe lanes as that is a clear short coming compared to AMD's platform.Rοb - Saturday, October 19, 2019 - link
LGA sockets with 8 to 10K pins are available: https://neoconix.com/custom-lga-sockets/ - Yet another reason to hold off on that build. ;)TE's brochure for their LGA 4189 socket says that the durability of the socket is 30 cycles. That will probably affect a few people whom test different CPUs on the same motherboard.