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  • duploxxx - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    Nice masking of the results Intel.
    Perhaps share the ASP of the client and datacenter compute part and see where it hurts…
    consumer grade ASP sales gets trashed by AMD, not amount of course due to ding dong clueless consumers bying OEM stuff.
    Datacenter pricing is under heavy pressure ( R cascade), moving business to AMD, sick of the unsecure platform, heat output and missing clear roadmap.
  • Ryan Smith - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    "Perhaps share the ASP of the client and datacenter compute part and see where it hurts…"

    "As for client computing revenue, the biggest gains there came from notebook ASPs, which were up 22% over the year-ago quarter. Other client metrics were relatively tame; notebook volumes actually slipped 3%, while on the desktop, ASPs were up 4% while volumes were down 4%."
  • duploxxx - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    so in retrospect, client ASP up on lower volume when you DONT ship low price devices ASP goes up offcourse.
    Notebook is lacking competition, nothing new there.
  • yeeeeman - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    Dude, go and comment on fudzilla or whatever crap site there is. This is a professional news site and haters are not allowed.
  • Lord of the Bored - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link

    I assure you, comments on every CPU and GPU article or press release on this site for the last few years demonstrates haters ARE allowed.
  • Pro-competition - Monday, April 27, 2020 - link

    Touche ;~)
  • liquid_c - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    Jesus, you are embarassing yourself. At least read the article.
  • duploxxx - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    well this site lacks edit for ages….not even sure if that part was already there in initial post....
  • Deicidium369 - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link

    God you kiddies are clueless. What are they masking exactly? Revenue up, profits up where's the masking? Do you know how much scrutiny a publicly traded company is under? Apparently not.

    LOL - and where exactly is the missing revenue from all that business moving to AMD? All these issues and still they can't even give away their Epyc line...

    unsecure - ZERO exploits based on those unsecure CPUs out side of a lab. ZERO,

    Heat output? LOL

    Missing Clear roadmap?

    Ice Lake Xeon for 1 socket and 2 socket servers shipping later this year
    Cooper Lake Xeon for 4 and 8 socket servers shipping later this year

    LOL - the consumers are smart enough to stay away from cheap chinese knockoff AMD.

    Pretty damned clear.
  • Korguz - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link

    Deicidium369 you call people here clueless ? isnt that part of the reason why you were banned from toms ? aside from the fact you practically said jarred has no idea what he is talking about?
    BTW, you said you were retired, but also saying you own 3 businesses, so what is it ? FYI Retirement refers to the time of life when one chooses to permanently leave the workforce behind.

    looks like cause your cant post your BS, FUD amd drivel on toms any more, your going to post it here, and also resort to insults name calling,
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - link

    "All these issues and still they can't even give away their Epyc line..."
    Almost like there's more to it than just who has the best equipment, no? Almost like things are a little more complicated than that...

    Even when you're responding to an obvious fanboy, you still come across as the bigger tool. "cheap chinese knockoff AMD" indeed. You're a bargain-basement discount shill.
  • JayNor - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    AMD just now getting a laptop chip that competes with Ice Lake, but Intel jumping out ahead with Tiger Lake deliveries this summer.

    Intel seems not too worried about competing with AMD on desktop with their Comet Lake 5GHz+ chips.

    Ice Lake Server chips sampling, according to CC ... adding 8ch memory, PCIE4, Sunny Cove cores ... might be a surprise to some that Intel's 10nm high performance processing is different than their 10nm low power processing used for laptops.
  • duploxxx - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    if you can still wait at least 6 months for the paper launch Ice Lake and hope devices will be available... with 32-36 cores in a +2xxW package

    just like the cascade lake R release with 2 months delay in shipping.
  • Deicidium369 - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link

    Sorry, Kiddie - Ice Lake Xeon is already sampling to large customers - look for it in Q3. and upto 38 cores, I know reading is hard for you.

    Hard to bury a well worn meme - with Ryan and the Albatross and all this heavy competition from AMD - truth is 10nm and 10nm+ are in full production, and about to blot out the sun like Core did well over a decade ago
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - link

    "10nm and 10nm+ are in full production, and about to blot out the sun like Core did well over a decade ago"

    🤣 Even if this were true - and it very obviously is not - 10nm firing on all cylinders would put them on a fairly even footing with AMD, maybe even a narrow victory (maybe). You sure do know how to ruin a response with an absurd overstatement. Fanboy logic...
  • haukionkannel - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    Intel is selling like hotcakes!
    Amd is not ever near in how much cpus these companies sell...
    So Intel knows that They don`t have to reduce prices! People still buy their products more than AMD... it is not easy to battle against Intel...
  • Deicidium369 - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link

    Would have thought will all the huge massive problems Intel has (according to the kiddies) that AMD would have been able to capitalize on those issues.

    Intel is a known quantity, and AMD is NOT a drop in replacement for Intel.
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - link

    You answered your own conundrum. AMD can't capitalise on missteps by a competitor in a market to which they don't yet have unfettered access.

    I get the impression you'd have been out there shilling for P4-derivative Xeons against Opteron back in 2003, too.
  • Lord of the Bored - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link

    He probably wasn't old enough to be on the internet back in 2003.
  • Korguz - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link

    actually, on a different site, he claimed that he retired @ age 28, 20 years ago, and yet on another thread on the same site, he claimed he started a woodworking business 40 years ago. so that could mean he was 28 in 2000, and at the age of 8, started his wood working business, which would put him at being 8 years old around 1980.
  • ksec - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    The comment system on Anandtech doesn't need edit button, it needs a Ban button.
  • Unashamed_unoriginal_username_x86 - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    ¿Por qué no los dos?
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - link

    Kudos for the original Spanish
  • dwade123 - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link

    Comment section is the only good place at Anandtech. Forum is nothing but a brain dead AMD circlejerk, led by that one crazed AMD mod lolz.
  • Oxford Guy - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link

    I remember when the big thing in the forum was defending Intel for using polymer TIM instead of solder. The "proof" to support that marketing was a PDF some random person made.

    The reality was that not even that PDF was a defense, unless you thought liquid nitrogen cooling is a typical choice.

    I suppose people go wherever they think the buzz is. Back then, AMD didn't have much buzz with its construction core line.
  • Deicidium369 - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link

    Who, Ryan?

    Tom's has Alcorn and the "GPU Editor" who thinks that GPU cores and CPU cores are comparable and thinks that Intel should make their CPU cores less complex because Nvidia makes a GPU with over 4000 cores and Intel CPUs are only 28...

    Enjoy the sun, my little AMD buddies, it is fleeting - and just like when Core dropped, and the Sunlight stopped shining on AMD for well over a decade. This generation's Core is about to drop,
  • Korguz - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link

    looks like some one wants to get banned from here to.
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - link

    Yeah, he really does seem to love talking complete bollocks and getting angry with anyone not sharing his flights of fantasy.
  • Korguz - Tuesday, May 5, 2020 - link

    notice how he doesnt reply when he gets called out on his BS ?
  • Lord of the Bored - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link

    The Core effect was as dramatic as it was in part because AMD made serious missteps at the same time that Core came out.
    Also, following up as utterly terrible a processor as the Pentium 4 meant that the Core appeared better than it was, because Intel could hype HUGE performance improvements over the P4(and quietly ignore the Athlon64, except for where they had to implement AMD64 features).

    What I'm saying is that IF Intel has really been holding out and feeding us garbage for several years and is about to drop a bomb on the market... it is going to be more like the P3 and the Sledgehammer than the Core and the Bulldozer.
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - link

    "Comment section is overrun by hypocritical projecting dweebs who whine about AMD fanboys while relentlessly shilling for Intel"
    FTFY
  • TristanSDX - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    no 10nm desktop CPU this year, confirmed
    Tiger Lake, Ice Lake for servers and SoC 5G - that's all stuff
  • yeeeeman - Friday, April 24, 2020 - link

    This year only rocket lake for desktop which is tigerlake on a 14nm node.
  • Deicidium369 - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link

    14nm Rocket Lake with architecture from Tiger Lake - Ice Lake (Sunny Cove) saw a 20-30% increase in IPC and Tiger Lake (Willow Cove) is likely to increase IPC by a similar amount - and with the superior frequency of Intel 14nm - those cores at 4-4.5Ghz are beasts. This will be the final 14nm Desktop flagship.

    There are no Tiger Lake servers - Ice Lake, yes.
  • Lord of the Bored - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link

    " This will be the final 14nm Desktop flagship."
    I'll believe it when I see it. Intel's been promising 10nm any day now for quite a while.
  • trivik12 - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link

    AMD fans are retarded. This is a phenomenal result considering its Q1 with no blockbuster product launch. Plus Intel is very conservative with its projections. I am expecting another big beat for Q2 when Tigerlake will start to ship for revenue. Q3 should have ice lake servers for revenue.

    Biggest point is Intel is sitting on huge cash pile and can weather this crisis.
  • Deicidium369 - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link

    They have a decent warchest for sure - but they are paying out an almost $5 per share dividend.

    I would push those back a bit - Q4 to show revenue from Tiger Lake and Q1 to show revenue for Ice Lake servers. TGL ships mid year for mid Q3 OEM sales - so Q4 will show the strength of Tiger Lake. Ice Lake start shipping around the same time - so might be Q4 or Q1 before we see the full impact. Certainly will see some impact in Q2 and Q3 from those launches.

    I would expect Q2 to be strong - really depends on Covid - I am sure Intel has orders to see them through Q2 ... But not expecting to see it as strong as Q1.

    Either way, will be a busy year for Intel. Desktop, Laptop, Server and GPU. Then the updated Optane SSDs and DIMMs, In the meantime their latest 10nm FPGA Agilex has been shipping.
  • Korguz - Saturday, April 25, 2020 - link

    what ever anti amd Deicidium369. you bash amd here, and bashed amd on toms, but NOT once did you every that i could see, post any sort of proof to you BS, FUD, or personal opinions.
  • jjjag - Sunday, April 26, 2020 - link

    Intel does not pay out $5 per share as a dividend. Earnings are about $5/sh and dividends are $1.32 per share. That is a nice safe ratio. Please learn how to use the internet before you post.

    Nobody cares how YOU project Intel's next Q earnings, because you have no idea what you are talking about. Intel themselves provided Q2 projection in their quarterly release. That is what we look at, not the musings of some internet crackpot
  • AshlayW - Sunday, April 26, 2020 - link

    Begone, shill.
  • AshlayW - Sunday, April 26, 2020 - link

    Not a great thing for the consumer, given Intel's history. AMD has superior products in almost all areas now, and people are learning that.
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - link

    "I'm clever because I mock people with disabilities"
    Yeah, go you, big man here.

    Massive, cash-rich company maintains dominant market position despite inferior products in most relevant categories. News at 10.
  • alufan - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link

    LOL
    its a slow road to beat a "competitor" that hands out billions in rebates and incentives to keep the competition out, however in non commercial settings AMD is beating intel hands down and once the 4000 CPUs are on open availability we will see a big shift in the market, unfortunately for AMD the Covid19 outbreak and the resultant massive uplift in Laptpops for home working will mean the market will be slower for a while as there will be a glut within most companies after all this, but it will still shift.
    Data centre is starting to shift intels own results show that and the results correlate with AMDs, competition is good for us all and frankly intel needs to put its house in order.
    BTW AMD was in this position many years ago then intel launched core2duo that was intels "Ryzen" blow to AMD and I believe Intel will be behind for some time to come
  • AshlayW - Sunday, April 26, 2020 - link

    Anti-competitive practises paying off as usual for Intel.

    Also, I don't have words to describe my contempt for some of the users on here; their flagrant bias (whether by delusion or financial investment) is telling, and sickening.
  • BenSkywalker - Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - link

    You complain about flagrant bias directly after claiming Intel is being anticompetitive?

    Offering special kickbacks to large scale buyers is considered 'competitive', not 'anticompetitive'. AMD should maybe consider going the same route and dropping their toxic vial marketing campaign.

    AMD is doing well on the CPU side being a great offering for all builds outside of pure gaming(and they aren't *terrible* there either), but their GPU side is regurgitated fecal matter being as kind as possible(full node advantage and struggling with fourth tier parts.......).
  • Tilmitt - Monday, April 27, 2020 - link

    How do these guys rerelease Skylake for 5 years in a row and keep growing revenue? That's actually an achievement in itself when you think about it.
  • Spunjji - Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - link

    Tech markets are more about marketing agreements and supply capability than tech. As long as the market itself grows, Intel's share grows, because as far as most customers are concerned Intel *is* the market.

    Teaming up with Nvidia to lock out the high-end gaming laptop market and continually raise ASPs has obviously helped a bunch, too. It pisses me off how that has been treated as completely acceptable by consumers and the tech press.
  • ingwe - Monday, April 27, 2020 - link

    Can we get the process graph in semilog? It feels unhelpful with a linear scale.
  • Lakados - Monday, May 4, 2020 - link

    This isn't overly surprising, even with AMD having the current lead in performance over Intel for their parts lineup AMD is not capable of producing those parts in a sufficient quantity to pose a real threat to Intel at this time. TSMC doesn't have as many fab plants as Intel does, and AMD shares that fab time with over a dozen other companies, Intel included. They simply can't get their stuff built in a large enough quantity for any OEM to seriously launch a mainstream laptop/desktop with. Until AMD can increase their delivery capabilities by at least 10x of what they currently are Intel will continue to crush markets.

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