This looks like it was designed by a corporate board meeting with all of the finance directors present.
With such a cut down I/O, and below minimum effort on the outer looks, I'm kind of terrified to get a glimpse of its insides. Would it be all proprietary power connectors and heatsink mounting mechanism on the insides? Is the front I/O even mounted on a separate daughter board, or is it going to be a single proprietary form factor mobo?
Lenovo's "Tiny" SSFs are business-tier machines. Vs this thing they pooped out is some consumer junk. It doesn't excuse the crap port selection but it does explain it.
Their garbage user guide doesn't say what the minimum CPU/GPU options are. But it apparently comes with a 310, 380, or 500-Watt power supply. It seems unlikely they can put even a 4070 Ti in it. Maybe a 4070?
If I could get it with an i3-13100 or i5-13400/13500 and no GPU, I'd consider it at $200-250 or less.
This probably has that proprietary motherboard where the front io is literally on the mobo. So if you ever reuse the case you will have no front io, and you can't rehouse the mobo
Which has been the standard for at least 2 decades now. It's cheaper and greener (less waste and less to go wrong). Such things will never effect the vast majoity of their customer base.
This thing exists propably only because intel pressure them to sell their cpu's. just so they can say they made it, and likely exactly 70 of them will be sold....
Weirdly looking at the back panel of that thing makes me smell stale cigarette smoke. Flashbacks to all the 90's era Dell, HP, etc. machines I used to service when I was a helpdesk guy at the local ISP and people would come in with a computer CLOGGED with pet hair and tar buildup. Euggh.
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meacupla - Friday, March 24, 2023 - link
This looks like it was designed by a corporate board meeting with all of the finance directors present.With such a cut down I/O, and below minimum effort on the outer looks, I'm kind of terrified to get a glimpse of its insides. Would it be all proprietary power connectors and heatsink mounting mechanism on the insides? Is the front I/O even mounted on a separate daughter board, or is it going to be a single proprietary form factor mobo?
Lenovo puts more effort into their 1L SFF PCs.
Gavin Bonshor - Friday, March 24, 2023 - link
It will likely have proprietary connectors, even as far as the power supply. I haven't been able to confirm this though but I suspect that's the case.AndrewJacksonZA - Friday, March 24, 2023 - link
My thoughts exactly.colinstu - Friday, March 24, 2023 - link
Lenovo's "Tiny" SSFs are business-tier machines. Vs this thing they pooped out is some consumer junk. It doesn't excuse the crap port selection but it does explain it.Samus - Tuesday, March 28, 2023 - link
I suspect totally different engineering departments within Lenovo, much like what happens at HP.nandnandnand - Sunday, March 26, 2023 - link
That amount of I/O is going to be enough for some users, but it is undeniably cheap and bad.https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/pubs/loq_tower_...
Their garbage user guide doesn't say what the minimum CPU/GPU options are. But it apparently comes with a 310, 380, or 500-Watt power supply. It seems unlikely they can put even a 4070 Ti in it. Maybe a 4070?
If I could get it with an i3-13100 or i5-13400/13500 and no GPU, I'd consider it at $200-250 or less.
Lt Cmdr Ambrose - Sunday, March 26, 2023 - link
This probably has that proprietary motherboard where the front io is literally on the mobo. So if you ever reuse the case you will have no front io, and you can't rehouse the moboSkeptical123 - Tuesday, March 28, 2023 - link
Which has been the standard for at least 2 decades now. It's cheaper and greener (less waste and less to go wrong). Such things will never effect the vast majoity of their customer base.deil - Monday, March 27, 2023 - link
This thing exists propably only because intel pressure them to sell their cpu's.just so they can say they made it, and likely exactly 70 of them will be sold....
James5mith - Tuesday, March 28, 2023 - link
Weirdly looking at the back panel of that thing makes me smell stale cigarette smoke. Flashbacks to all the 90's era Dell, HP, etc. machines I used to service when I was a helpdesk guy at the local ISP and people would come in with a computer CLOGGED with pet hair and tar buildup. Euggh.Findecanor - Tuesday, April 4, 2023 - link
Eww that's ugly.