Man, I was momentarily thrilled to get a quad core Haswell Pentium in the Click 2. Then I remembered that Intel is selling Atom cores under the Celeron and Pentium brands. You should really note that.
True, how the mighty(brand name) hath fallen. On a lighter note, x86 Celeron's are still junk that should have been relegated to the trash/recycle bin with the rest of the crust, IMO.
I recently acquired a Clover Trail( Z2760/dual 1.80GHz) tablet and gotta admit, I forget it's a netbook sometimes. Very useful as a toy, reader, browser, mail, FTP... somewhat useful for remote and light code editing w/ mouse & keyboard. Useful in a pinch & beats carrying a laptop around on the days when I don't need one, anyway. Now if we can get some firmware to truly disable secureboot/gUEFI rather than a 'disable secureboot' option that does not.
I have been looking for a laptop for school and have played with some of the quad core Atom devices on the market. I have to say... they are really quite adequate. Sure, not power house processors, but more than fast enough to keep up with HD video streams and display web pages faster than most internet connections can spit them out. I really like the ASUS T100 and would be all over it if there was a 4GB/128GB Ram/Storage option... but there is not. Sadly I think I am going to have to wait. Broadwell comes out late this summer right before school starts, and Airmont (Atom refresh) comes out this fall. Both promise much better battery life, and lower thermals (less fans, and more turbo functionality), so maybe they will be worth the wait.
Well, I don't think HD video streams are a good standard of performance since any SoC in the last 4 years can probably display them adequately. I've used a Celeron quad core Atom laptop and having my usual Firefox tabs open while editing a normal scientific Excel spreadsheet. That results in regular (every ~4 minutes) lags where nothing happens for 2 seconds. And opening more websites with more complex layouts gives the same stutter. And that laptop didn't even rely of mechanical storage. I also absolutely don't value any battery life over 5 hours as I simply don't need it. And paying over 500USD for an Atom powered laptop/tablet is too much in my opinion. I see no reason why it should be over 400USD.
Haswell core 3 and 4 would be useless in such a device with limited cooling and power budget. On the other hand Haswell dual core or Atom quad core makes sense for such devices.
$240 base at that, granted there's an extra battery there too, battery life might be interesting unless the one in the base is just there because they skimped on the main one.
That info graphic for the radius looks really similar to what Lenovo has been using for the Yoga. The thought of a Japanese company copying a Chinese company is funny.
After having owned a surface pro 2 for a while now, and getting quite sick of its limited kickstand, I do like the idea of a real adjustable hinge and a solid keyboard base that can actually hold the display up. Gotta check what the weight ends up at...
Also there is a suspicious lack of mention of active digitizer stylus support... I admit, with the Surface Pro 2 not having a convenient holster for the stylus, I've not been using it nearly as much as I did the one on my previous HP tm2. But still, with the price that high anyway, I do want to have it included.
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Death666Angel - Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - link
Man, I was momentarily thrilled to get a quad core Haswell Pentium in the Click 2. Then I remembered that Intel is selling Atom cores under the Celeron and Pentium brands. You should really note that.coder543 - Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - link
The modern Intel Atom cores are really powerful, more than worthy of the name Pentium... not that "Pentium" is known for being hugely respectable.invinciblegod - Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - link
"not that "Pentium" is known for being hugely respectable." Man, how times change.tunapez - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - link
True, how the mighty(brand name) hath fallen. On a lighter note, x86 Celeron's are still junk that should have been relegated to the trash/recycle bin with the rest of the crust, IMO.I recently acquired a Clover Trail( Z2760/dual 1.80GHz) tablet and gotta admit, I forget it's a netbook sometimes. Very useful as a toy, reader, browser, mail, FTP... somewhat useful for remote and light code editing w/ mouse & keyboard. Useful in a pinch & beats carrying a laptop around on the days when I don't need one, anyway. Now if we can get some firmware to truly disable secureboot/gUEFI rather than a 'disable secureboot' option that does not.
CaedenV - Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - link
I have been looking for a laptop for school and have played with some of the quad core Atom devices on the market. I have to say... they are really quite adequate. Sure, not power house processors, but more than fast enough to keep up with HD video streams and display web pages faster than most internet connections can spit them out. I really like the ASUS T100 and would be all over it if there was a 4GB/128GB Ram/Storage option... but there is not.Sadly I think I am going to have to wait. Broadwell comes out late this summer right before school starts, and Airmont (Atom refresh) comes out this fall. Both promise much better battery life, and lower thermals (less fans, and more turbo functionality), so maybe they will be worth the wait.
Death666Angel - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - link
Well, I don't think HD video streams are a good standard of performance since any SoC in the last 4 years can probably display them adequately.I've used a Celeron quad core Atom laptop and having my usual Firefox tabs open while editing a normal scientific Excel spreadsheet. That results in regular (every ~4 minutes) lags where nothing happens for 2 seconds. And opening more websites with more complex layouts gives the same stutter. And that laptop didn't even rely of mechanical storage. I also absolutely don't value any battery life over 5 hours as I simply don't need it. And paying over 500USD for an Atom powered laptop/tablet is too much in my opinion. I see no reason why it should be over 400USD.
MrSpadge - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - link
Haswell core 3 and 4 would be useless in such a device with limited cooling and power budget. On the other hand Haswell dual core or Atom quad core makes sense for such devices.Flunk - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - link
They're now about as powerful as the old Core 2 chips so they're reasonable for light loads.MScrip - Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - link
Dang.... no love for traditional laptops anymore?Impulses - Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - link
I'm trying to see what the Click 2 Pro does better than the new Surface Pro for the price... It has a hinge, I guess. Price still seems kinda high.CaedenV - Tuesday, May 27, 2014 - link
It has a 500GB HDD in the base... outside of that it has a worse case, worse screen, worse design... really not sure how the price is justified.Impulses - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - link
$240 base at that, granted there's an extra battery there too, battery life might be interesting unless the one in the base is just there because they skimped on the main one.jdrch - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - link
The Radius is the first passably styled Toshiba laptop I've seen in ages. For years I thought they'd simply fired their industrial design staff.hojnikb - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - link
Any word on ram size and possible GPS on the 8" and 10" encore ?Mayuyu - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - link
That info graphic for the radius looks really similar to what Lenovo has been using for the Yoga. The thought of a Japanese company copying a Chinese company is funny.meacupla - Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - link
Toshiba always seems to be behind the curve when it comes to display resolution for the price.1080p screen for $900 was good about 2 years ago.
Visual - Friday, May 30, 2014 - link
After having owned a surface pro 2 for a while now, and getting quite sick of its limited kickstand, I do like the idea of a real adjustable hinge and a solid keyboard base that can actually hold the display up. Gotta check what the weight ends up at...Also there is a suspicious lack of mention of active digitizer stylus support... I admit, with the Surface Pro 2 not having a convenient holster for the stylus, I've not been using it nearly as much as I did the one on my previous HP tm2. But still, with the price that high anyway, I do want to have it included.